Aothaine Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Do Space Wolves have an equivalent to the Chapter Champion? Seems like this character should have been born in the Space Swolved codex first to me. Maybe I'm missing it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Isn't that Arjac, or possibly Grimnar himself? I actually think the idea of a designated Chapter Champion is totally counter to the Wolves - they would all be fighting in some way or vector to being the greatest champion/Lord of the Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Isn't that Arjac, or possibly Grimnar himself? I actually think the idea of a designated Chapter Champion is totally counter to the Wolves - they would all be fighting in some way or vector to being the greatest champion/Lord of the Space Wolves. Ohhh I didn't really mean it as give the Space Wolves a Chapter Champion. But I wanted to know if we had a unit on that power-level. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I believe we got access to one in the summer update or some FAQ that was released recently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 We have Lone Wolves and Great Company Champions which are might in their own right. However each of the Great Companies operate independent so they each have their own kinda, but only 2 named. The Great Wolf Company is Arjac and the Deathwolves have Canis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Thank you! Gonna have to look into this more for sure. Having a storied character that is a powerhouse on the field would be very thematic and help force the opponent into difficult decisions. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Squark Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 The Company and Chapter Champions are the Captain/Chapter Master's bodyguards- which is why Arjac used to be an upgrade to wolf guard squads instead of an independent character in his own right. Arjac's promotion to battle leader throws a wrench in that, though. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Arjac’s role was defined in the Champion’s of Fenris supplement. He’s Logan’s personal champion. Logan has a different Wolf Guard Battle Leader. I’d have to read again if that duty is to act as a chapter champion for ceremonial purposes. If that’s the case I don’t think too many wolves would bother to challenge him for the honor. He’s really large. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Well, he is known as the man mountain... so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 if you read ashes of prospero then arjac finally has some real competition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 if you read ashes of prospero then arjac finally has some real competition ashes of prospero isn't canon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 if you read ashes of prospero then arjac finally has some real competition ashes of prospero isn't canon How is that possible? It was published by Black Library. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Chapter Master / Great Wolf titles are interchangeable. Logan is the Chapter Master as far as the rest of the Imperium knows currently. Arjac is therefore the Chapter Champion. The Wolves know better and are a warrior brotherhood that vies with each other in what is best described as coopetition. So, if you "need" to know, Arjac. If you play Wolves, yours. Or at least, informally, yours; Arjac is still the only one the Imperium would recognize. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 if you read ashes of prospero then arjac finally has some real competition ashes of prospero isn't canon How is that possible? It was published by Black Library. It's considered "soft cannon" or something. Basically until it's in a codex it isn't cannon. The other Space Marine Conquest series (BA's Devastation 9f Baal, IF's Apocalypse, DA's War of Secrets) are referenced in their codex as events. Our codex does not reference anything in Ashes of Prospero. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360522-chapter-champion-equivalent/#findComment-5445994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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