thecapn226 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 So for a Master Swordsman, would the teeth of Terra or sword of judgement be better? Sword has more damage and AP, but teeth gives 3 extra attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Teeth. The more dice you roll, the more chance you have to roll the exploding 6s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Master Swordsman simply gives you 20% more hits with either weapon, so it's just a question of which weapon is better in the first place. For most purposes, I'd lean towards the Teeth there, unless you really want to hunt things with 3 wounds. (If you're going for vehicles/monsters, SoJ is better, but in that case why aren't you using a hammer?) Â I forget who, but somebody suggested putting the Sword of Judgement on a Company Champion with "Champion of Humanity" to make a Knight-killer: hit on 2s and wound on 4s with full rerolls, 6 attacks when charging, D3. Not bad for 47 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Our special sword is very good for a Characters with WL-Trait Champion of Humanity. A Company Champion for example with this sword would get 6 Attacks on charge and +1 to hit and +1 to wound plus complete rerolls for hits and woundrolls. Like I said earlier in another thread that for his 46 points and 5 CPs he kills a Knight !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecapn226 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 The champion sounds interesting. Paired with an EC they could double team almost any character easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtBlaster Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Unless my math is wrong somehow, for vehicle hunting (specifically knights) the SOJ has identical results to a hammer for a fraction of the points. (It also gets a bigger boost from Suffer Not on a Captain) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Hit on 3s, wound on 4s means one in three attacks gets through. Hit on 2s, wound on 5s means 5/18 attacks get through, which is worse but only slightly, at a 36-point savings. Hm, that's not so bad, really. If you take Imperium's Sword, the hammer starts wounding on 3s and looks a lot better. Â The sword does cost an extra CP though, which you could otherwise spend on master-crafting the thunder hammer (...assuming we retain that option from IF? Still up in the air, I guess) and then it really stops being a contest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 champion of humanity get +1 to hit. A hammer Captain is even a better choice. The company champion is just way cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtBlaster Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Champion of Humanity is only a +1 to hit against characters, which not all knights are, so that doesn't really apply? jeremy1391 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Champion of Humanity is only a +1 to hit against characters, which not all knights are, so that doesn't really apply? Against knights you will normally be facing off against 3 knight characters. Usually a gallant with land strider, a crusader with endless fury and ion bulwark, and another crusader with either the Taranis super melta or the Krast headmans mark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5453863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) @ Sgt. Blaster - thats not correct. its a +1 to hit AND to wound too. In Addition all ( good ) Knights are characters because of relics and so on... If they dont have not - they are not as good and dangerous as they could be... Edited January 1, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360877-best-weapon-for-master-swordsman/#findComment-5454041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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