No Foes Remain Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Greetings brothers and sisters of the B&C. So quick and probably not so simple question, in regards to painting style GW's vs FWs, how would one emulate FWs painting style? Perfect example is the Legion Destroyer squad vs a Primaris Marine from the Raven Guard upgrade set. Both are Raven Guard, both are well painted but with my slightly shakey hands the FW style would be easier to paint and (in my opinion) looks much better. I think its due to the lack of (or lessening) of edge highlights and the chipping and damage on FWs part. Thanks in advance, No Foes Remain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I'm pretty sure that Forgeworld used to use airbrushes while the 'eavy metal team don't. No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5454794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Airbrushed, no/far fewer edge highlights, lots of weathering. Those RG marines were painted with Tamiya paints Edited January 2, 2020 by Marshal Loss No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5454804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 airbrush, sponging, oilwashes and weathering powders. No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5454842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 airbrush, sponging, oilwashes and weathering powders. This and you have any experience with historicals, military modeling then its all the same skills/ techniques carried over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5454906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 In the last year or so they have been painting (badly) in the GW studio style. Not a positive change imo. Aeternus and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 To add a more helpful answer, the destroyers you linked to appear pretty basic. Primed black, a zenithal highlight with grey, and then a wash with black oil, although there could be some brown in there too. The damage looks to be a steel color applied with a sponge. No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. I wouldn't say it's above your skill level. It just means you haven't tried it before :lol: I've done Zenithal priming only once (on my Sanguinius model) and while I didn't use inks/washes to paint them, it did help with the result: That's a Zenithal of Black > Grey > White with a wetbrush/overbrush (basically, a slightly more wet drybrush) of White Scar over it all. No airbrush or funky washing required. And sponging on battle damage is actually pretty easy to do, you just need to remember "start with little, you can always add more but can't take away" when it comes to sponging battle damage. No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Thats... amazing Gederas. I will say that I don't have confidence in my painting abilites mainly due to bad childhood ezcema (my hand writing is horrible) and that its been almost a decade over six years (found some old ETL pics on my PC) since I last painted. Sponging though, that I want to get into as it seems simple. I just need to find a sponge and model to volunteer as a test subject when my paints arrive. Edited January 3, 2020 by No Foes Remain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. How committed are you? There are three Forgeworld masterclass modeling/painting books with step by step instructions on how they paint and weather things but they appear to be out of print. I have the first two on my shelf but I know if you google around you can find pdfs to read through - they make it look easy but guys like Mark Bedford are super talented. It might be worth scanning through them to see if it's really above your level but it's hard to pull off their style without an airbrush and weathering powders. You can do a decent facsimile with glazes and sponges, I really like their style on the Blood Bowl models (especially the pants and jerseys) but they weren't in the books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. I'm gonna call BS. If you look at my son's of Horus test mini in the hall of honour that has been call FW style by some and if you have an airbrush it's super easy. You do a base coat, then you take a lighter tone and just spray from above then again with a lighter tone. Then you sponge on a nice contrasting colour like silver or brown and use that last light base colour and just add some highlights. Gloss varnish Use cheap oil paints mixed with white spirit and was over the armour and then wash your brush. Use the clean brush to wipe away the oil paint you don't want. Leave 24 hour Gloss varnish and finishing touches. No need for lots of edge highlights or blending etc and an airbrush and compressor can be picked up for under £100 on Amazon these days Stop selling yourself short The emperor protects No Foes Remain and Firedrake Cordova 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) If it helps, YouTube is excellent for this kind of thing: Miniac's zenithal priming guide Vince Venturella's zenithal highlighting guide Marco Frissoni uses oil washes a lot - most recent example video (Corpse Grinder Cults) WHTV Duncan's weathering/damage tutorial (skip to about 3m 20s for the sponging version) or Darren Latham's masterclass (sponge is about 13m in) Edited January 3, 2020 by Firedrake Cordova No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. How committed are you? There are three Forgeworld masterclass modeling/painting books with step by step instructions on how they paint and weather things but they appear to be out of print. I have the first two on my shelf but I know if you google around you can find pdfs to read through - they make it look easy but guys like Mark Bedford are super talented. It might be worth scanning through them to see if it's really above your level but it's hard to pull off their style without an airbrush and weathering powders. You can do a decent facsimile with glazes and sponges, I really like their style on the Blood Bowl models (especially the pants and jerseys) but they weren't in the books. To be honest, i wouldnt spent much money on the FW masterclass books, the first 2 are ok but you can find more actual and better books today from AK; MIG or other model companies. The third book is a waste of time in my eyes its just there to advertise GW stuff and less usefull than the first 2. At the time of the first 2 books FW used alot of modelling technics from historical scale modelling so just look into that and you will find more than you may like. No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 At the time of the first 2 books FW used alot of modelling technics from historical scale modelling so just look into that and you will find more than you may like. I have Rob Ferriera's book on weathering vehicles (linky), which is very good, although it is a Vallejo book (so expect only their products to appear). :) No Foes Remain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 See this is why I love the B&C, I say I won't be able to do I and my fellow Fraters tell me that I don't know what I am talking about and give me loads of links to help. Thanks everyone, I have a lot of reading to do before L&T. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Well bugger, should have known it was going to be above my level. Thanks anyway everyone, now I have a lot of things to google idiot guides for. How committed are you? There are three Forgeworld masterclass modeling/painting books with step by step instructions on how they paint and weather things but they appear to be out of print. I have the first two on my shelf but I know if you google around you can find pdfs to read through - they make it look easy but guys like Mark Bedford are super talented. It might be worth scanning through them to see if it's really above your level but it's hard to pull off their style without an airbrush and weathering powders. You can do a decent facsimile with glazes and sponges, I really like their style on the Blood Bowl models (especially the pants and jerseys) but they weren't in the books. To be honest, i wouldnt spent much money on the FW masterclass books, the first 2 are ok but you can find more actual and better books today from AK; MIG or other model companies. The third book is a waste of time in my eyes its just there to advertise GW stuff and less usefull than the first 2. At the time of the first 2 books FW used alot of modelling technics from historical scale modelling so just look into that and you will find more than you may like. I wouldn't either and wish I hadn't. Just saying it might help to scan through them seeing step by step looks at how the models are done then adapt one's tools and abilities to replicate the look. I really like FW's use of browns and blacks, especially with their gold, which I tried to replicate on my AT stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360940-forge-world-style-of-painting/#findComment-5455464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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