Axineton Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 So I’ve got a 4 player game on Thursday evening. I’ll be Death Guard but I’m going up against Custodes, Grey Knights and probably Eldar for 100pts. Can I get feedback on this list to tweak it? I’ve pretty much had a year out of kill team so just relearning how to play it agin and what’s what etc. ++ Kill Team List (Death Guard) [100pts] ++ + Configuration + List Configuration: Matched Play: Kill Team + Leader + Plague Champion [18pts]: Plaguesword, Plasma gun . Leader + Specialists + Plague Marine Fighter [19pts]: Great plague cleaver . Zealot Plague Marine Gunner [19pts]: Plague spewer . Heavy Plague Marine Gunner [18pts]: Plasma gun . Demolitions + Non-specialists + Plague Marine [17pts]: Icon of Despair Poxwalker [3pts] Poxwalker [3pts] Poxwalker [3pts] ++ Total: [100pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Navaer Solaq Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Q. Can you take elite models? IMO. You will have a hard time against custodes. I would recommend not fighting them and letting grey knight player take the burnt of attack from custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5464631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Well the only advice I can give is, unless there's one crucial objective, it's likely to turn into two separate 1v1s on the same board which later results into a last 1v1 with two very injured teams. So you better not split your team too much or else you get into a situation where half of your team has to deal with a full team and the other half of the team mingles with two full teams at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5464711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Your right Panzer that’s how it turned out mate. I faced off with the grey knights and the Eldar player got caught with the custodes. I managed to kill w grey knights but proceeded to lose all but two death guard. By turn 4 I had the great plague cleaver and plague spewer left. My cleaver got charged by 2 custodes as all the Eldar had been wiped out and my spewer was killed by the grey knights. no objectives just straight out killing in this game. Custodes only lost 1 wound the whole game! I should of took the flail of corruption instead of the cleaver. Playing again this Thursday but I’m gonna tweak the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5464723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 For such kind of games it's probably a good idea to have some kind of king of the hill type mission. A single objective placed in the middle that gives points each round and where you can win even if you got tabled. Make it narratively that every round your team has control of it, it's sending valuable data back to the main force. Since all of the teams involved are rather elite you don't even have to think about any potential abuse for horde type teams so no need to add any additional rules like kill points or such. ^^ Brother Navaer Solaq, Axineton and ranulf the revenant 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5464730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 It was pretty much a game for 2 newbies who’d not played it so we ran with the just kill option but yeah your right. Objective games work a lot better and this Thursday we’ll be using objectives this time. No custodes this week. The custodes player saw they were op and said he didn’t wanna be that guy. Doesn’t bother me at all. I like the challenge and love learning from my mistakes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5464779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Navaer Solaq Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 It is rough to play against custodes in any match without multiple objectives as mission. How are you tweaking your list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5465223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 It is rough to play against custodes in any match without multiple objectives as mission. How are you tweaking your list? Going to take out the cleaver and put the flail in. I couldn’t remember what I used to take after having a break for a few months but I went back through the DG kill team thread and looked at other players lists and realised that’s what I was missing. Might change the spewer for a blight launcher as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5465284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Played a 3 way game last night as Death Guard again. Was going to use Deathwatch but I forgot to pack them for the game. I tweaked my list from last week. Took out the cleaver and poxwalkers and put in two plague marines with bolt guns. I was up against Grey Knights and Eldar again. This time we played a game with 5 objective markers. Played the Recover Intelligence mission on 2 boards. I managed to capture 2 objectives on turn one and so did the Eldar player. GK scored no vp on turn 1. Turn 2 I only scored 1 vp as one of my objectives was contested with the GK. Eldar scored another 2 vp so it’s 4-3-0 And then turn 3 I scored 0 vp as my man on objective 2 was killed by a weapons platform from the Eldar. The Eldar scored another 2 vp and 3 vp for getting the centre objective and GK got his first vp. So it’s now 9-3-1. Turn 4 and the grey knight player kills the Eldar on the centre objective and captured it while I’m still contesting the one with the grey knights. I ended up coming last as the gk score 3 vp so it’s 10-4-3. Was a brilliant game and I managed to kill 2 grey knights over 4 turns but no Eldar. Grey knights killed about 5-6 Eldar with just the weapons platform and gunner left I think but can’t remember off the top of my head. They both managed to kill 4 of my death guard so I only had my champion and flail of corruption left. Edited January 25, 2020 by Axineton Panzer and Dr_Ruminahui 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5467324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsloth Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Rough go on that first game but I feel like custodes has a tremendous advantage in a kills only game. Probably the tactical thing to do would have been to all 3 gang up on them and then figure it out amongst yourselves later .. though that is then pretty anti-fun for the custodes player :/ Axineton 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5469130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axineton Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Rough go on that first game but I feel like custodes has a tremendous advantage in a kills only game. Probably the tactical thing to do would have been to all 3 gang up on them and then figure it out amongst yourselves later .. though that is then pretty anti-fun for the custodes player :/ Was very tough. I pretty much never got involved with the custodes till turn 4 as I was dealing with those pesky grey knights for the 3 previous turns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361244-got-a-four-player-game-this-week-need-tips-and-advice/#findComment-5469292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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