Red_Shift Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I came across a theory (I think it may have been from Wolf Lord Rho' s vids, love those) that Malcador was a perpetual. If so, and he was reborn after his sacrifice, he could have been running the show from behind the scene in some way, potentially with the help of Dorn if his disappearance was staged. I kind of like the idea that a returning Primarch was there all along and with Guilliman making all of these changes, steps forward and makes it clear that the changes aren't welcome and there is some kind of schism/tension. I read a very long post (I forget who by, sorry) over on the sm section that talked through the 'king in yellow' from the Abnett inquisition books and theorized who it could be and it really got the conspiracy theories going for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShibeKing Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Unlikely, but I hope for Corax. Giant Shadow Daemon Ninja with a revenge boner. Doesn't really hand out buffs. But is able to bring even more deployment and troop movement shenanigans while being a character killer. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Corax or the Khan would be my preferences Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) I think the Khan would be the most interesting choice. 1) playstyle would be substantially different than RobbieG. IMO more of a beat stick with deployment tricks than a bunch of auras. 2) wild card in the setting and has some unfinished business with Morty. Edit: When I say wildcard I'm not suggesting that him and GMan are going to clash, I think the setting is too bleak for that happen. It's more going be how parts of the imperium react to the Khan, and what trouble having him around brings to their doorstep. Edited February 3, 2020 by Jorin Helm-splitter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I thought the Black Dragons were Salamander successors? Only SW are confirmed at zero successors (other than failed Wolf Brothers) Black Dragons aren't. One of their number was effectively adopted by the Salamanders and made an honorary member of their Chapter, but paternity test came out negative, Black Dragon origins are unknown but not Salamander in nature (which makes sense as the Black Dragons share nothing with the Salamanders besides dragon iconography). MegaVolt87 and Lord_Caerolion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The Black Dragons are part of the 21st "Cursed Founding". Some of these chapters had chimeric geneseed, drawn from more than one progenitor so it is possible that the Black Dragons do not have a single parent chapter. Nocturne Noble 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 If I had to pick one rather than put all of them back in the box so to speak, I'd say Corax. We know he's alive and hunting daemon primarchs, and he could easily be more of an "Imperium aligned super-assassin" rather than just for ravenguard, with of course bonus for the Ravens sons if he takes to the field with them. But mostly because Corax would probably be the easiest to bring back into the narrative without :cussing it up more. He isn't interested in governance or fixing the Imperium, he's here to kill monsters. So it'd be fairly simple to write him as appearing wherever chaos intrusions are the worst to slay their champions from the shadows. You could write a reunion scene for him and Gman, which would be kinda fun because Corax has accepted his nature whereas gman hasn't, and then have Corax briefly appear to his sons, then dissapear again on his quest. That or Russ, because Odin/Russ would be awesome, but they'll probably mess it up and make him riding 2 chained thunderwolves like a skateboard or some :cuss. Gotta one-up grimnars Santa sled somehow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5471995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Russ is probably the most popular primarch, even relative to G-man. I don't think GW would bring him back just yet. Narratively, he's quite flexible. He has the independent streak of Corax and the Khan, but a wisened, world-weary version of him would have the dramatic heft of a Lion or Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5472042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenth Floor Mosquito Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 They should have brought Russ back, rather than the Ultramarine one. Would have been much more fun seeing his take on things and leading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5472645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 They should have brought Russ back, rather than the Ultramarine one. Would have been much more fun seeing his take on things and leading. He is not really that sort of leader. He is quite aware that his primary skill is in hitting things. Subtleknife and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5472915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 He's also definitely not one that could have unified the Imperium in the way Guilliman has. Subtleknife and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5472929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The Space Wolves also aren't in the vanilla codex. The first Primarch was always going to be Guilliman. The Ultramarines are the cover art of the main Astartes codex. The next Primarch will be either Russ or The Lion. I'd rather Russ because I'm terrified of what they'll do to the Lion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5472940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 All we really know is he left his armor at a Khornate temple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The Lion left his armour at a Khornate temple? Was this covered by BL? Which work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Russ did, or at least his armour was found in one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Oh I see...where was this mentioned? A codex? Was it his armour and the Emp's Spear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Oh I see...where was this mentioned? A codex? Was it his armour and the Emp's Spear? 7th edition codex, it's a relic. However it says that SW believe it is the armor of Russ but scholars say it isn't. Judging by the fact of how large Primarchs are, I doubt a SM could wear it making it seem like this isn't Russ's actual armor but maybe one of his companions. The Spear of Russ is currently on Fenris and was used against Magnus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ironic how the Spear of the Emperor so spurned by Russ is now hailed as the Spear of Russ PeteySödes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ironic how the Spear of the Emperor so spurned by Russ is now hailed as the Spear of Russ I've never heard of it called the Spear of the Emperor only Spear of Russ, Dionysian Spear, and Gungir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Have you read Wolfsbane? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenth Floor Mosquito Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 He's also definitely not one that could have unified the Imperium in the way Guilliman has. Yeah, but Guilliman's a stiff. Russ would be much more lively than the geography teacher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Only Dorn is stiffer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Reborn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Only loyalist primarch I truly care about is Sanguinius... And I don't think that should happen. So my vote is for Alpharius/Omegon. There's always a lot of fun space to work in when the Alpha Legion is involved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Loyalist Alpha Legion and Eyes of the Emperor working together sounds fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5473544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Hands down I’d love to see Rogal Dorn return. Whether from out of the void or he was secretly on Terra this whole time I wouldn’t care. But give me Dorn with a big ol cybernetic power fist. BLACK BLŒ FLY and War Angel 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361259-which-loyalist-primarch-would-you-like-to-see-next/page/7/#findComment-5474853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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