MithrilForge Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Not sure with NewCrons and 9th Ed Coming that I can afford the box... might just get the T’au flyers just to paint up for now... but those Valks look very awesome !.?!?.. Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 :yes: I'll give him a kiss from my Vendetta lascannons :D New pics make them look even better! Ugh my wallet because I think I need some of those dice too... You do need the dice :p I got some of the imperial dice from the original release, The AI dice are some of the better dice GW sells IMO. Decent size, easy to read, only have a symbol on one side and feel nicer to roll than some of the faction dice. The drawback with these dice is there only being 8 in a box. You will want 2 boxes as the marauder destroyer and tiger shark can both put out 9 firepower. duz_ and Firedrake Cordova 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 :yes: I'll give him a kiss from my Vendetta lascannons :D New pics make them look even better! Ugh my wallet because I think I need some of those dice too... You do need the dice :p I got some of the imperial dice from the original release, The AI dice are some of the better dice GW sells IMO. Decent size, easy to read, only have a symbol on one side and feel nicer to roll than some of the faction dice. The drawback with these dice is there only being 8 in a box. You will want 2 boxes as the marauder destroyer and tiger shark can both put out 9 firepower. And you don’t think GW thought about that ;-) ... they know us gamers a little too well... “this will make them want 2x the amount of cool dice than they think they need.... you win this round GW... Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 And you don’t think GW thought about that ;-) ... they know us gamers a little too well... “this will make them want 2x the amount of cool dice than they think they need....you win this round GW... Oddly, I'm not that enamoured with GW dice generally, although the Ork and Imperial Navy Aeronautica dice have been the best ones I've seen, I think (although I did also like the squig dice, mainly because they were hilarious and completely impractical - everything a squig should be! :lol:). I've generally gone the Chessex route, as they are pretty, not too expensive, and you get lots of them. :) MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Astra Militarum faction focus is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/03/faction-focus-astra-militarumgw-homepage-post-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Hot diggity they keep releasing planes I adore and are making me more likely to pick it up... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Astra Militarum faction focus is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/03/faction-focus-astra-militarumgw-homepage-post-2/ :wub: Are both the Valk and Vulture resin or just the latter I'm still confused how they fit in the game as they aren't fighters, but that's probably because I'm yet to play the game... Still... :ermm: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Are both the Valk and Vulture resin or just the latter Valkyrie/Vendettas are plastic, 4 to a box, pre-order on Saturday. I'm still confused how they fit in the game as they aren't fighters, but that's probably because I'm yet to play the game... Still... I'm guessing they ran out of classes with the existing ones, and didn't want to add more. Edited June 3, 2020 by Firedrake Cordova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewarriorhunter Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I didn't realize the this box was a different faction than the Imperial Navy. I had lumped them all together... but it sounds like you can field Imperial Navy planes alongside the Guard? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Shame we don't get more info on the rules, but I guess we can wait till the weekend. The planes do look very nice. Edited June 3, 2020 by Mandragola Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I didn't realize the this box was a different faction than the Imperial Navy. I had lumped them all together... but it sounds like you can field Imperial Navy planes alongside the Guard? I would assume so, as the box contains Lightnings, which are Navy. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Is it just me or is the Tau bomber two separate boxes for the two variants? It’s just a gun muzzle that’s different, right? They look structurally the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Is it just me or is the Tau bomber two separate boxes for the two variants? It’s just a gun muzzle that’s different, right? They look structurally the same. Nah I think there's more to it than that, though I agree they do look superficially very similar. The marauders and big ork bommers already share sprues on what are fundamentally the same plane. They made the same choice there, to package them separately instead of giving you both options in one box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5534674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I didn't realize the this box was a different faction than the Imperial Navy. I had lumped them all together... but it sounds like you can field Imperial Navy planes alongside the Guard? It said it in the article, but technically Valks, Vends, and Vults are all Imperial Navy assets...just deployed so often with the Guard that they more or less give leeway to make Astra Militarum a faction in a plane game. It seems like they'll be a subfaction of the Aeronautica Imperialis. Competitive miniatures games dont really suit my playgroup, but everytime I see a release for Aeronatucia I get more interested. I just need a Chaos Faction and I am in. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Is it just me or is the Tau bomber two separate boxes for the two variants? It’s just a gun muzzle that’s different, right? They look structurally the same. There’s not a lot different between the two Marauder variants but they’re two kits. There’s three weapon options for one variant and two bigger weapon options for the other, so my guess would be different weapon sprues for each kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I didn't realize the this box was a different faction than the Imperial Navy. I had lumped them all together... but it sounds like you can field Imperial Navy planes alongside the Guard? It said it in the article, but technically Valks, Vends, and Vults are all Imperial Navy assets...just deployed so often with the Guard that they more or less give leeway to make Astra Militarum a faction in a plane game. It seems like they'll be a subfaction of the Aeronautica Imperialis. Competitive miniatures games dont really suit my playgroup, but everytime I see a release for Aeronatucia I get more interested. I just need a Chaos Faction and I am in. It's kind of weird they went for this approach, and it's caused a bit of confusion. I'm sure these models are just part of the existing navy faction, as they actually are part of the navy. This just seems like a slightly questionable bit of writing by the WHC team. It'll be cleared up soon anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Does anyone know if Valkyries were already present at the time of the Horus Heresy? I didn't found any info about that yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 There's a "blurb" article up on the Tau Air Caste: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/05/take-to-the-skies-with-the-tau-air-castegw-homepage-post-2/ No sign of the promised Lightning article yet ... doh ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 That article - living in low/zero G makes you better at tolerating high G manoeuvres? I'm not an expert, but I don't think that's how biology works from the effects of muscle atrophy reported in astronauts. Firedrake Cordova, Arendious and Iron Hands Fanatic 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewarriorhunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Does anyone know if Valkyries were already present at the time of the Horus Heresy? I didn't found any info about that yet. I just finished Legion and towards the end they load up on drop ships to to descent to a planet's surface. I can't recall if they were called out as Valkyries though. Mendi Warrior 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5535898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Is it just me or is the Tau bomber two separate boxes for the two variants? It’s just a gun muzzle that’s different, right? They look structurally the same. Nah I think there's more to it than that, though I agree they do look superficially very similar. The marauders and big ork bommers already share sprues on what are fundamentally the same plane. They made the same choice there, to package them separately instead of giving you both options in one box. Thou art correct, I forgot about Marauders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5536169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 That article - living in low/zero G makes you better at tolerating high G manoeuvres? I'm not an expert, but I don't think that's how biology works from the effects of muscle atrophy reported in astronauts. I'm pretty comfortable asserting that this goes under the heading of "never think too hard about 40k biology". I can imagine some gene-modification/physiological changes that would benefit a "pilot caste", those spindly limbs might work to combat blood pooling in the extremities for example. But nothing inherent to living in free-fall seems likely to produce those advantages 'naturally'. (Not to mention evolution not really working that way. A couple thousand years isn't long enough for that sort of change to really take hold, without outside help.) Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5536214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Off the top of my head I'm sure I read somewhere about air caste fighters having fluid filled "cockpits" to assist with g-force but I may be thinking of something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5536254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilt_imp Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) About the new releases:Taros Air Campaign BookThis beautiful 96-page hardback campaign book includes the following (plus loads more):- A matt-finish cover with gloss spot finish highlights, plus a ribbon bookmark in drab green.- The full Aeronautica Imperialis game rules, including how to build your force using Squadron Lists, perform Ace Manoeuvres, field different classes of aircraft and unleash ground defences. Learn how to manoeuvre your aircraft, adjust their altitude and change speed while avoiding the risks of crashing and breaking up (if you exceed your maximum speed). There are even rules for special manoeuvres including landing, taxiing, and taking-off.- In-depth background on the war to retake Taros from established T’au Empire armies, in particular the air war and daring low-altitude skirmishes.- New rules for Flying at Low Altitude, Terrain Height, Collisions, Rolling Areas of Engagement, and Falling Behind.- Five scenarios, including The Dogfight, The Chase, Subterranean Assault, Sky-Fortress Attack and Canyon Attack Run.- Rules for campaign play, including how to replace destroyed aircraft and level up your pilots as they gain experience. - Squadron Lists, providing details of the following aircraft, including their weapon options and special rules: Avenger Strike Fighter, Lightning Strike Fighter, Imperial Arvus Lighter, Valkyrie Assault Carrier, Vulture Gunship, Barracuda, Tiger Shark and Remora Drone. - Rules for ground assets such as the Hydra Flak Battery, Basilisk Anti-Aircraft Emplacement, KV 126 Skyfire Platform and KV 129 Stormfury Platform. - Rules for the following legendary ace pilots: Flight Commander Megana Ayce, Flight Lieutenant Dyce Vander, Kor’la Kae O’ar and Kor’la Dor’n O’ka – each including a profile of their aircraft and special rules.- Example colour schemes of Imperial Navy, Astra Militarum and T’au Air Caste aircraft.- A reference page showing the eight different manoeuvres aircraft can take, as well as a 2-page quick reference containing the key game rules. So new ground assets to come in the future! Oh and about those Lightnings:This kit allows you to build both Lightning Strike Fighters, packing twin multi-lasers, and Lightning Fighters, armed with deadly twin lascannons. Lightning Strike Fighters are best suited for dealing with swarms of light aircraft, while Lighting Fighters are ideal for tailing ponderous bombers and heavy fighters. Both of them operate best in squadrons... The kit also includes a selection of hellstrike missiles and skystrike missiles with which to upgrade your miniatures. Edited to be read easier Edited June 6, 2020 by gilt_imp Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5536274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Thanks gilt_imp - the Taros rulebook looks like it adds some useful content over Rynn's World, then (so not just Tau stuff). Although, Basilisk AA guns..? GW's product page for the Imperial Navy cards has the rules of the Lightning on it ... the base plane is more expensive than a Thunderbolt Fury (it has fewer structure points, but more throttle and manoeuvres, and is faster). It also looks like Valkyries have quite a large transport capacity ... gilt_imp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361424-aeronautica-imperialis-taros/page/4/#findComment-5536411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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