Holier Than Thou Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Example, can I cast Smite when there is no enemy unit in range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 In your example, I would say no as you don't fulfil the requirements of the spell in order to do the cast roll. Can I ask why you would want to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/#findComment-5466258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 One of the new Grey Knights stratagems triggers on a successful cast to give +1 to further psychic tests. Smite is the easiest power to cast so would be the best power to start with to trigger the stratagem. The Psychic Phase rules have the following order Choose Psyker and Power. Roll Test Roll Deny If successful, resolve power (details of which are described in the power’s entry). So you have to take the test before you even consider range/targets. I think it’s (admittedly, probably a loophole) legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/#findComment-5466265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHadesKiller Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 RAW I would say that you can, as the wording of Smite (and most psychic powers) are such that you select/determine the target of the power after casting, not before, so you could cast a power, then find there are no targets (or in Smite's case, see that there are no visible enemy units in 18") causing the power to have no direct effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/#findComment-5466270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 RAI probably no. Very cheeky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/#findComment-5466284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 In your example, I would say no as you don't fulfil the requirements of the spell in order to do the cast roll. Can I ask why you would want to? actually as other have said you dont check range until AFTER succesfully cast. One of the new Grey Knights stratagems triggers on a successful cast to give +1 to further psychic tests. Smite is the easiest power to cast so would be the best power to start with to trigger the stratagem. The Psychic Phase rules have the following order Choose Psyker and Power. Roll Test Roll Deny If successful, resolve power (details of which are described in the power’s entry). So you have to take the test before you even consider range/targets. I think it’s (admittedly, probably a loophole) legal. Eldrads had this is day 1... however craftworlders smite goes up in difficulty with each attempt... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361429-can-you-cast-a-a-psychic-power-with-no-applicable-target/#findComment-5466381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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