Guest Triszin Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ragnar is gone from the us site too. So things are in motion me thinks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5477633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm so convinced it's ghaz, Makari, book, done. I'd be amazed if there's anything else. I stand by to eat my words again though like before Hope you're hungry... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5477634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm so convinced it's ghaz, Makari, book, done. I'd be amazed if there's anything else. I stand by to eat my words again though like before Hope you're hungry... Like Grom, always! Alas I already have ghaz down to be eaten! Lexington 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5477662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ragnar is gone from the us site too. So things are in motion me thinks He's gone from Canada too but still in the UK. Ghaz is still available in Canada but disappeared in the UK... Summats is afoot!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5477663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Ghaz is Def redemptor in size. Another teaser image on warcom Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Ghaz is Def redemptor in size. Another teaser image on warcom Where are you seeing that please? I can’t see anything except the short story and a piece on Waaaghs from the past. Never mind, I see him in the background of the Makari picture. Edited February 17, 2020 by Holier Than Thou Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Image https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/c2f6216b.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Awesome, I like that banner. Yeah it that scale is to be believed he a Big Un. Well ready your wallets folks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I mean, Ghaz has to be revealed at the toy fair the 22nd right? They're ramping up all the Ork articles so it really makes sense to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I mean, Ghaz has to be revealed at the toy fair the 22nd right? They're ramping up all the Ork articles so it really makes sense to me Based on last year's reveals - box games, I don't think that we'll see ghaz at the toy Fair. Doesn't fit with what they tend to show PiñaColada 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Why must you bring me tomorrow's disappointments today? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Why must you bring me tomorrow's disappointments today? I am Dreamcrusher. I prevent you from having unrealistic expectations. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Toy fair will just be boxed games. But we should get a reveal of ghaz, Monday or Tuesday :) I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5478769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/19/the-grot-awakening-saga-of-makarigw-homepage-post-1/ Makari rules preview. He's a Goff, has a super-Grot statline (WS4+, S/T 3, 4 wounds), a 2++, a dagger with no stays buf does d3 mortal wounds one a 6+, and gives his leadership of 6 to nearby gretchin units. Also, a sort of confirmation that Makarai is a Dread Pirate Roberts style title that Ghaz gives. Not sure Makari has an actual, in game use, but if his points are cheap enough, he could fill an HQ slot in a battalion you don't mind having as Goff or mixed-clan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andes Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Maybe I'm reaching with this, but the unfortunate implication of that is Ghaz will be like the new T'au Shadowsun, in that he’s a GOFF and can be taken without breaking Kulture but also won’t buff non-GOFF units. Makari buffing non-GOFF would have been a good omen... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I don't think Makari being goff or non goff even matters he's a grot and normally grots do not gain anything from Ork clan culture. The only exception I can think of is if He has his own special rule about using the Goff ability, which I would only expect because he is a special character/ named model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 He's cool. Think I'll add a Goff supreme detachment to compliment the evil sunz speedy Boyz and death skull dread mob Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Given the quite sturdy statline of Makari I'm still holding out hope Ghaz is bumped up all they way to 16 wounds and just becomes a complete monster. Give him a Mangler squig type bracket system from AoS (meaning he's weak at the middle bracket but super strong again near death) and makes his kustom klaw D4 and 7 attacks. He really might be close to redemptor sized I think and characters usually have a few more wounds than a model their size "should" (heck just look a 4 wound makari) so it's not that crazy I think. Make his statline something like: M14" WS2+ BS5+ S8 T7 W16 A7 Ld9 Sv2+ @8W M10" S6 A5 @4W M12" S8 A7 Expand "the prophet of Gork and Mork" ability to also reduce incoming damage by 1 to a minimum of 1. Up the damage on the klaw to 4 and switch out his twin bigshootas to twin supa-shootas. Keep the rest of the abilities the same with the exception that he fits into any klan, not just Goffs. That'd be my dream for Ghaz, not just a slightly upgunned version of what we already have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I could see ghaz being 15 wounbs with a 5+ fnp to shrug off Mort wounds and snipers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I could see ghaz being 15 wounbs with a 5+ fnp to shrug off Mort wounds and snipers Or he's so rock hard he catches the bullets in his mouth and spits them back?! Azaiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 What do people think will happen in regards to the "create your own custom Clan" rules, given it's been somewhat solidly established since the Clans were a thing that these are the only ones there are? I know we can already take different Kultures in different detachments, but I could see GW giving Orks the ability to take multiple Kultures in the Warlords detachment, so long as there's at least 1 unit of the Warlords Kulture for each different one in each organization type. In other words, you can take Evil Sunz bikers in your Death Skull army, you've just got to have some Death Skull koptas or something, you can't just mix-and-match to have the best Kulture for every unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5479979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I tend to agree with you, @Lord_Caerolion. One of the beautiful parts of Ork fluff is how things are written into their very DNA, which not only causes the appearance of the Meks and Doks but also the same clans, without some sort of connection to orks from other worlds. It means Orks have a super consistent kultur, which is unique when considering the scale of the galaxy and how any normal species would diverge greatly from one another over time due to the vast distances in the void. However, There are six clans in particular that have spread from one side of the galaxy to the other: This sort of opens the door for the fact that there could be minor clans. I'm leaning 60% towards "no kustom clan rules", but if it happens, I won't be surprised. I don't think they'd have anything that could overcome how good Deathskullz (due to all the things their trait gives) and Bad Moonz (due to the Showin' Off! stratagem being tied to the kultur) are, but I could see something replacing Evil Sunz as the go-to for hordes of boys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5480027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 What do people think will happen in regards to the "create your own custom Clan" rules, given it's been somewhat solidly established since the Clans were a thing that these are the only ones there are? I know we can already take different Kultures in different detachments, but I could see GW giving Orks the ability to take multiple Kultures in the Warlords detachment, so long as there's at least 1 unit of the Warlords Kulture for each different one in each organization type. In other words, you can take Evil Sunz bikers in your Death Skull army, you've just got to have some Death Skull koptas or something, you can't just mix-and-match to have the best Kulture for every unit. There are the 6 main/ major clans. There are however clans that don't fall under the classics. As such I fully expect custom clans like they've done for marines, tau, GSC, Eldar, etc. No reason not to really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5480031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It's really only 2 clans. Goffs and all those weedy gits over there..wishing they were Goffs. I don't see what the problem actually is, 8th edition lest players take multiple detachments so take a detachment of any clan you way filled with which ever units you want. I can't even guess at what a custom clan trait would be. What don't the 6 clans cover that would be wanted for traits. (If the answer isn't Orky it wont count.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5480051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 There's definitely been mention of "minor" Clans before. Specifically, the old Ork Codexes would always introduce the concept with something like "there are many, many Ork Clans, but only six really big ones." That said, I kind of hope we don't have rules for them. andes, Warhead01, Lord_Caerolion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361457-pa6-saga-of-the-beast-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5480054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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