Vs Imperial fists

[Wolf Lord Loki]

Right chaps, chapesses and assorted plague things.

 

I have a game tomorrow vs Imperial Fists. In addition to this list I will have Mortarion.

 

I know his list will be regular astartes supported by a Fell Blade

 

How best to use it. The palequin sorcerer is to Warptime Mortarion

 

The plan is to head straight for the enemy lines full bore and get stuck in.

 

The land raider is for anti tank support as apart from the melts on the blight hawlers I have very little ranged anti tank.

Plus its a distraction. My friend and I are rather old school, traditionally that land raider should be full of terminators. It won't be but he will think it might be.

 

Not sure if I should leave a squad on foot or put all the squads in the transports

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [136 PL, 3CP, 1,996pts] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

 

+ HQ +

 

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 195pts]: Hellforged sword, Plague spewer, Wings

 

Sorcerer on Palanquin of Nurgle [8 PL, 137pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Nurglings' claws and teeth, Prescience, Warptime

 

+ Troops +

 

Plague Marines [10 PL, 153pts]

. Plague Champion

. . Codex: Plaguesword, Plasma gun, Power fist

. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

 

Plague Marines [13 PL, 194pts]: Icon of Despair

. Plague Champion

. . Codex: Boltgun, Plague knife

. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

 

Plague Marines [10 PL, 208pts]

. Plague Champion

. . Codex: Plague knife, Plasma pistol, Power fist

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Great plague cleaver

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Great plague cleaver

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Mace of Contagion and bubotic axe

. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Mace of Contagion and bubotic axe

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

 

+ Elites +

 

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 264pts]

. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter, Flail of Corruption

. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe

 

Deathshroud Terminators [11 PL, 126pts]

. Deathshroud Champion: Manreaper, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlets

. 2x Deathshroud Terminator: 2x Manreaper

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 306pts]

. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Chaos Land Raider [19 PL, 279pts]: Combi-bolter, Twin heavy bolter, 2x Twin lascannon

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Combi-bolter

 

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Combi-bolter

 

++ Total: [136 PL, 3CP, 1,996pts] ++

 

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[MasterDeath]

That + Mortarion if I understood you right. You have a lot of vehicles there. Vehicles just die vs. IF. I would go as Infantry heavy as I could. Maybe replace Prescience for Miasma of Pestilence to protect Morty (I assume the Deathshrouds will be near him after deployment). Split the Blight Haulers into 3 times 1 model, so multiple hits are wasted. (Yes I know the hit less good that way, but you will lose at least one model round 1 anyway, because of IF). Give each Footslogger Squad a Hauler as protection, that keeps you flexible.

Plague Marine Squads: Nr. 1 is allright with 7 guys and three expensive ones. Nr. 2 could you split that Squad into 2 x 5 guys? Could be helpful for holding purposes (Its hard for me to read battlescribe) So two times 5 guys with Flail and Blight Launcher + cheap Champ. Nr.3 Thats too many eggs in one basket, as you have no fodder guys here. At least put them into a Rhino, better remove some of the weapon options for Bolter or Knife guys.

Terminators: I do not think the Flail guy keeps his other weapons.

[Wolf Lord Loki]

Okay so I went with the above list l. And I did okay - not that the final score showed that. We use the card missions plus first blood, slay the warlord, heavy support worth a VP if slain and something about holding objectives at the end of the game.

 

So turns 1 and 2 went quite well I advanced on the Fists and the raider and fart karts chewed away at the fell blade taking it past its first damage reduction. Oh the blight hawlers were marvellous the way they weathered the incoming fire. They even survived several bursts from the quad lascannons

[Special Officer Doofy]

So that list isn't right. "For every five models in the unit, one Blightlord Terminator may replace their combi-bolter and bubotic axe, or combi-bolter and balesword, with a flail of corruption". So you don't pay the 7pts for those, you're termies should only cost 257pts. I never use battlescribe.

 

Fighting the space marine supplements as pure DG right now is no fun for me. Do you find it beneficial to run swords and fists on the PM Champs? I find unless the group is pure melee and I'm trying to get them into combat, they never make contact and are wasted points. My Meta is almost all ranged and no melee. I find keeping the groups cheap and taking more groups is better. 100pts for 5 guys with 2 blight launchers is the best anti Primaris I've found for myself.

 

Im glad to hear your haulers had success. At 102pts now that puts them in helbrute cost territory and I would think the invlun and DR make up for the worse BS. You should take a pic or two next time! I love seeing DG on a table.

[Wolf Lord Loki]

In the end we used power levels. Those were the units I wanted to take.

 

Only changes was that the Blightlord was correctly armed on the table and I had an extra icon bearer when I realised I was a Plague marine short in one squad.

 

As we used power levels it didn't really mater that the champions were armed as per the box (sword, fist and plasma) but I never used the swords. The powerfists were more useful against armoured targets.

 

Honestly I think most kills were in combat. We are more melee than people think. Flails are one of the best weapons in the game. Blightlord flail and champion accounted for about 20 models in combat by themselves. Mortarion only killed 11 (wounded a few others in addition to this with his Host of Plagues and nurgles rot stat)

 

I have a couple of pictures but nowhere to host them

Edited January 26, 2020 by Wolf Lord Loki