Irate Khornate Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 So I'm wanting to discuss about the GW team taking over the Forgeworld models. What would be your wishlist? What changes do you think will come with it? I'll be honest, I'm not looking forward to it. I have a feeling we might be losing a bit since main team seems to not favor anything except imperium. But what are your opinions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Honestly? I'm just hoping they keep the OOP options, add in the new/experimental rules stuff, and update the points to be in line with the latest CAs. An Index 2.0 if you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Make every (or as close as possible) unit not be automatic shelf-relegated garbage either due to horrible “fluffy” rules or horribly “fluffy” point costs. Like the greater Daemons, which were miraculously somewhat sanely pointed at the beginning of the edition, shortly before some genius decided it was way better for Anggrath to cost 888 points because it’s Khorne’s number, lulz. No more :cuss like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Expectations: OOP units and options (that they don't intend to retool) will be relegated to Legends, including sonic dreadnoughts. Points and rules tweaks to make more sense (looking at you, named Greater Daemons and Titans!). Wishes: Make Dreadclaws and Kharybdis have the same T1 arrival rule as loyalist drop pods. Subfaction rules for Skulltakers and The Faithless. Rework of Renegades & Heretics. A full codex treatment would be nice, but even just adding warlord traits, stratagems and relics would be a start. Soulhunter1995, Tipsy Techpriest, ChazSexington and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Yeah, I’ll second every one of those points, frater. Cheex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Thirding that. Though, the Renegades & Heretics is unlikely, seeing as how the entire range is now gone. I do think that the Dreadclaws and Kharybdis should have the Drop Pod Assault rule. Like... Seriously. Regarding the Points: ESPECIALLY the Superheavies for the Marines. The Fellblade should not be nearly triple the points of a Baneblade..... Edited January 28, 2020 by Gederas Khornestar and Cheex 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Thirding that. Though, the Renegades & Heretics is unlikely, seeing as how the entire range is now gone. I do think that the Dreadclaws and Kharybdis should have the Drop Pod Assault rule. Like... Seriously. Regarding the Points: ESPECIALLY the Superheavies for the Marines. The Fellblade should not be nearly triple the points of a Baneblade..... I think its more likely Renegades and heretics to go plastic as a new 40k army, though probably will see IG re-vamp first. They kinda decimated the FW knights rules, FW custodes seem to have done ok so I don't know what will happen with CSM FW stuff honestly. Could go either way. Eh, we still got HH for now I guess if the 40k FW revisions go to pot. Khornestar and Tipsy Techpriest 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Thirding that. Though, the Renegades & Heretics is unlikely, seeing as how the entire range is now gone. Very true. Very little hope for that, then! That said, seeing that the range disappeared a while back, I wouldn't be surprised to see the faction reborn as Servants of the Abyss at some point, like how Zone Mortalis became OOP a couple of years ago only to come back in plastic. The fluff makes regular reference to renegade guardsmen, in an edition where there is little fluff or artwork of stuff that can't be represented in game. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5468728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I would like to see the forgeworld units points/ power levels brought more in line with the current codexes. I play death guard and I still think they are expensive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5469314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 All drop pods getting the T1 treatment. Dreadclaw should keep its current points since its a flyer/transport. If it doesn't get the T1 drop rule then it needs to have its points reduced. Chaos access to deathstorm drop pods with cheaper points cost or better weapon ranges. As far as I know, chaos is the only faction that uses them regularly in the fluff despite being something that every chapter and legion should have easy access to and use in every drop pod assault. Leviathan storm and butcher cannons getting a price hike to make the other over priced weapons more competitively useful. All marine superheavies getting a massive price drop to bring them in line with Imperial guard superheavies and knights. I would love to put my Typhon or Spartan back on the field but they aren't worth sacrificing over a third or more of my points to do it as they stand now. Gederas and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5469569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 All drop pods getting the T1 treatment. Dreadclaw should keep its current points since its a flyer/transport. If it doesn't get the T1 drop rule then it needs to have its points reduced. Chaos access to deathstorm drop pods with cheaper points cost or better weapon ranges. As far as I know, chaos is the only faction that uses them regularly in the fluff despite being something that every chapter and legion should have easy access to and use in every drop pod assault. Leviathan storm and butcher cannons getting a price hike to make the other over priced weapons more competitively useful. All marine superheavies getting a massive price drop to bring them in line with Imperial guard superheavies and knights. I would love to put my Typhon or Spartan back on the field but they aren't worth sacrificing over a third or more of my points to do it as they stand now. Yeah agreed with pods, they can even eat slots still for me if they get points cuts + SM dex pod rules. I think you should try your spartan again but with laser destroyers. Its about the only CSM FW LOW I feel is properly costed right now for what it can do in that setup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5469792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_cauldron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I second a lot of what has been said above by other Brothers, except for the Sonic Dreadnought. I wish just for recalibration of some prices here and there for the sake of global consistency (so no over- or underpriced units) AND access to new HH-era toys like Arquitor. Celtic_Cauldron Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5469828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I would love for Chaos to get hellforged version of loyalist “things” like Caestus Assault Ram and all the Heresy era tanks. But no1 priority is Mechanicum (and Dark equivalents) book with all the cool robots! Tipsy Techpriest 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5470056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I hope we get the Dark Mechanicus, improved Traitor Guard, and access to the newer Horus Heresy vehicles for 40k. Tipsy Techpriest 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361544-new-forge-world-books/#findComment-5470734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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