Aztek Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) "Tomorrow is the first Monday of the month! Which means ... Road To Thramas!! So excited for the community to see the new reveals! AVE DOMINUS NOX!" https://twitter.com/therealSebT/status/1223959645536030720 Any last minute guesses before the reveal tomorrow? I'm just hoping for Atramentar. Edited February 2, 2020 by Aztek Ghorgul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghorgul Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Special Night Lords terminator unit would be sweet, just give me special terminator with nostraman chainglaives and I will be H-A-P-P-Y! Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel975 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I wonder if its too much to hope for a preview of a piece of the new DA army lists.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I would really love to see Atramentar for NL. Now that we have a DA transfer sheet coming, I want to see some more on how the iconography works for that, so that we can accurately use it before the book release. Aztek and Ghorgul 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 real info on a Thramas release date instead of teases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghorgul Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 As a matter of discussion and presenting suggestions also these: Night Lords ScimitarsRelatively large models, because of fluff there would be opportunities to take them kind of Dark Eldary with blades, carcasses with the NL wing and skull motifs. Also kind of more gothic/baroque NL pattern scimitar with sharper angles would be cool! Extra blades and carcasses are not impossible to model on normal scimitars, however cool wing and skull motifs are proportionally harder and then even further baroque vampire aesthetics are really hard to do oneself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 So, a terminator unit that isn't the Atramentar... Whilst the models look good, I would have preferred the Atramentar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I think they’re going for a unit that can be Atramentar without devoting a special unit specifically to them. Like these dudes can be everything from company veterans to the Atramentar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghorgul Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Is that 'Volkite Cavitor' some new Volkite weapon or a typo? Or some Volkite weapon that has always been but I just now hear about? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic Thunder Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Marshal Rohr makes a good point in that the Contekar could be played as Atramentar, I hadn't thought about that and I like the idea I think the little 'rules tease' for chainglaives is odd as we already know what they do yet we've never see a volkite cavitor before... whats wrong with a charger? Also "Hey look at this tank we've shown you two times before, but THIS time, it's got a different paint scheme..." Silent Observant and Marshal Rohr 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I'm not certain if Contekar will make good Atramentar proxies. Obviously we don't know the details yet but I personally get Grave Wardens vibe from them. Honestly the Terminator Command Squad might be as accurate Atramentar as it gets - they got better melee and morale which suits them. Shame they can't take Chainglaives though. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say Cavitor is some unholy mix of Culverin and Charger, with shorter range but more shots. I just hope that we will be able to teleport them - imagine DS them precisely on Sevatar and literally fire away with all those heavy flamers. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) I'll quote my thoughts from N&R (TLDR; if there isn't any explicit way to depict Atramentar, then FW have made a stupid mistake): Hopefully they do stress a link between the two in the lore, because not including the Atramentar is frankly a pretty dumb move. I can understand FW wanting to have a bit of freedom to explore new units, particularly if there is already a direct equivalent in 40k (e.g. Sanguinary Guard), but why wouldn't you want to explicitly put a unit of Atramentar of some form in the game? They've been the Night Lords' most famous unit since they were added to the lore & are clearly a fan-favourite. Given that the Atramentar were already nominally a company-sized formation, having these as a specific sub-faction of them should be a no-brainer. But with the description of these guys basically sounding like slightly-rewritten/plagiarized Atramentar I am not getting my hopes up. Perhaps the FW guys really weren't able to talk to ADB about it and decided against it. Bizarre. Having a mix of fan-favourites & new stuff is good but 30k should be, in large part, about playing the hits (imo). People want to see their favourite characters & favourite units on the tabletop. /rant over That being said, the models look really good. A volkite weapon with attached chain bit is comically murderous. The RoW isn't anything special but I'll never complain about seeing more Rites added to the game. This is shaping up to be a huge update for the Night Lords, really happy (jealous!) for NL players. I really do like the models, though with units this detailed and obviously monopose, you really can't buy more than one set without enormous work edit: we have our answer: Atramentar describes the entire first company of Night Lords and this is a specific unit within that. So basically, these guys are both! Problem solved. Pity about not having a cool lion pauldron though Edited February 3, 2020 by Marshal Loss Lautrec the Embraced 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghorgul Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The arms do look like adjustable, at least they aren't hugging the body. However the pictures are clearly digital models and not from finished miniatures so it's impossible to say whether they are completely monopose or slightly adjustable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 In any case: I really like them. Hopefully the arms are fully separate, because I'd totally pick up a couple of these guys to expand out my (Chaos) Terminators for my Night Lords okonomiyakimarine and Aztek 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 I love them <3. Will be getting 2 sets of them when they come out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5471865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
okonomiyakimarine Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 tempted. of course this is exactly as planned! the volkite cavitors are pretty sweet. if only i could paint! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 From a rules standpoint the NL RoW and Terminator seem real mediocre. The FOC modifications at the cost of an extra troops choice is very situational and I doubt a lot of people will take it. A special terminator unit armed with high AP weapons? Probably another pass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 From a rules standpoint the NL RoW and Terminator seem real mediocre. The FOC modifications at the cost of an extra troops choice is very situational and I doubt a lot of people will take it. A special terminator unit armed with high AP weapons? Probably another pass. Excellent point, if your weathering is meant to carry the paint job the gloss coat may not be the best choice. If it is meant to add depth to an airbrushed or highlighted scheme gloss is perfect. Brofist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Wait a second. The article yesterday said they were all armed with Chain Glaives. This has been edited to be "Chain Blades". They even changed the rule! https://www.warhamme...02/07adc43c.jpg No 2 handed, so +1 attack(I think?), but no longer +1 S . You're gonna want a blob of these guys for the +1 to hit and +1 to wound for outnumbering your enemy I think. If you go on youtube and look at Valrak's video of the article you can see the old "Chain Glaive" rule. Nerfed before we made it to plastic! Oof. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnwolf Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Wait a second. The article yesterday said they were all armed with Chain Glaives. This has been edited to be "Chain Blades". They even changed the rule! https://www.warhamme...02/07adc43c.jpg No 2 handed, so +1 attack(I think?), but no longer +1 S . You're gonna want a blob of these guys for the +1 to hit and +1 to wound for outnumbering your enemy I think. If you go on youtube and look at Valrak's video of the article you can see the old "Chain Glaive" rule. Nerfed before we made it to plastic! Oof. I suspect it will be like the Frost blades, the suped up chainsword ones will have the revised rules as shown, the large pole glaives will have the strength bonus too. The +1 attack would still need another combat weapon, possibly even another specialist weapon as they are termis. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The rite of war is pretty good if you don't want to take terror assault. The elite slot is one of the most contested outside of heavy support; fill up on compulsory troops and then go wild with the elite slot. You get a lot of freedom with a FoC slot that's up there with heavy support in terms of being most contested. One idea I had was to super-saturate a list with implacable advance and troops and see how it turns out. For the terminators, they're impossible to analyze other than their strength, toughness and saves. So far we know they have str 4 rending, AP 3 attacks and will benefit from a talent for murder, and that's it. We don't know weapon skill, initiative, wounds, attacks, unit size, points values, extra special rules, wargear upgrades, etc... Lautrec the Embraced, Gorgoff and Dhar'Neth 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The rite of war is pretty good if you don't want to take terror assault. The elite slot is one of the most contested outside of heavy support; fill up on compulsory troops and then go wild with the elite slot. You get a lot of freedom with a FoC slot that's up there with heavy support in terms of being most contested. One idea I had was to super-saturate a list with implacable advance and troops and see how it turns out. For the terminators, they're impossible to analyze other than their strength, toughness and saves. So far we know they have str 4 rending, AP 3 attacks and will benefit from a talent for murder, and that's it. We don't know weapon skill, initiative, wounds, attacks, unit size, points values, extra special rules, wargear upgrades, etc... THANK you. Jeez, why exactly do we always have to point out this whenever a new unit is teased? Wait for the final rules and the final unpainted (!) miniatures before complaining. ;) The RoW seems pretty good to me too. There are very powerful units in the elite section. Darkwrath121 and Loquille 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361671-night-lords-road-to-thramas-part-3/#findComment-5472530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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