McElMcNinja Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 New year, new army... so I had been trying to make Death Guard work in a competitive environment, but I felt they just didn't have the damage output to keep up in this nuMarine era. Maybe when a new codex drops or maybe even with a good PA supplement they can come close, until then I have switched my allegiance to The Purge (still Nurgle). I have run the below list against the new Grey Knights twice now, the first game he conceded turn 3. The second game went all 6 rounds and I squeaked out a win 23-22. Both games were ITC, but it was our first time running our armies and we are both learning. My Possessed bomb isn't as good (not even close) as the others running around, but it does act as a good distraction. I usually buff them to a 4++ save and that helps. I also use mutated invigoration on them or my oblits when advantageous. Being able to reroll AP or damage has helped. The heldrakes are good, with their auto hits it's easy to get the Purge re-rolls started and to score recon early. I'm still not sold on my warlord trait, the extra dispel has been useful, but I haven't regained any lost wounds yet. The Fist of Decay has been awesome, it has done its job very effectively against multi-wound units and even a land raider. I have just over a month before my first tournament, any questions/suggestions/comments are welcome as I tweak stuff around. ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [71 PL, 1,151pts, 8CP] ++ Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Legion: The Purge + HQ + Master of Possession [5 PL, 88pts]: Cursed Earth, Force stave, Mark of Nurgle, Mutated Invigoration Sorcerer with Jump Pack [7 PL, 116pts]: Bolt pistol, Devourer of Magic, Force stave, Mark of Nurgle, Miasma of Pestilence, Warlord, Warptime + Troops + Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 72pts]: Mark of Nurgle . 17x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun . Cultist Champion: Autogun Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword . 3x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Reaper chaincannon Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword . 3x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Missile launcher + Elites + Possessed [15 PL, 255pts]: Mark of Nurgle, 15x Possessed + Heavy Support + Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Nurgle, 2x Obliterator + Flyer + Heldrake [9 PL, 140pts]: Baleflamer, Mark of Nurgle Heldrake [9 PL, 140pts]: Baleflamer, Mark of Nurgle ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [54 PL, 849pts, 1CP] ++ Detachment CP [1CP] Legion: The Purge + HQ + Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 104pts]: Combi-bolter, G'holl'ax, Fist of Decay, Mark of Nurgle, Power fist Warpsmith [4 PL, 60pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Power axe + Heavy Support + Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought [14 PL, 198pts]: Butcher cannon array, Greater havoc launcher, Mark of Nurgle, Twin heavy bolter Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought [14 PL, 198pts]: Butcher cannon array, Greater havoc launcher, Mark of Nurgle, Twin heavy bolter Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 289pts]: 2x Butcher cannon array, 2x Hellflamer, Mark of Nurgle ++ Total: [125 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I think dropping the CSM and Heldrake and replacing them with more cultists and a Fire Raptor might help more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5477040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 I think dropping the CSM and Heldrake and replacing them with more cultists and a Fire Raptor might help more Would you be able to elaborate on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5477051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Well you really only need troops to hold objectives if your dreadnoughts are dealing all the damage and a Fire Raptor or Hell Blade is a far superior damage dealer of a flyer than the Heldrake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5477052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thank you, you make a very good point. What about bikes, loading them up with meltas? They can advance 20" and still fire and charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5477660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Haven't changed my list yet, but after another go the heldrakes are definitely getting taken out. They just die way to easy and arent adding any value to my list. Played against another Grey Knight army (I think we will be seeing a lot of those now) and they rip Daemons apart quickly. We used the new ITC missions and I like knowing whose going first. I got to go second and he didn't move much his first turn. Turn 2 he smite spammed the first heldrake and all my Possessed, turn 3 he got the other heldrake. He managed to kill a derodeo and a couple characters turn 4. I was able to get all but two of his characters by the end of the game and I won 29-22. He scored 11 points on secondaries while I only got 7. I know that's not the best report, just limited on time right now. I have sold a good portion of my Death Guard to afford my new army, I'm just glad I hadn't picked up the heldrakes yet. Have my oblits, 1 marine squad, Possessed, and all my characters (except the MoP) painted, so I'm making good progress. I will try to get some pics posted later. This is the new list I'm considering... ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [26 PL, 428pts, 8CP] ++ Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Legion: The Purge + HQ + Master of Possession [5 PL, 88pts]: Cursed Earth, Force stave, Mark of Nurgle, Mutated Invigoration Sorcerer in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 110pts]: Combi-bolter, Death Hex, Force stave, Mark of Nurgle, Warptime + Troops + Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: Mark of Nurgle . 10x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun . 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon . Cultist Champion: Autogun Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword . 3x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Missile launcher Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword . 3x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Reaper chaincannon ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [53 PL, 855pts, 1CP] ++ Detachment CP [1CP] Legion: The Purge + HQ + Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 170pts]: Baleflamer, Mark of Nurgle . Helstalker: Techno-virus injector + Heavy Support + Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought [14 PL, 198pts]: Butcher cannon array, Greater havoc launcher, Mark of Nurgle, Twin heavy bolter Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought [14 PL, 198pts]: Butcher cannon array, Greater havoc launcher, Mark of Nurgle, Twin heavy bolter Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 289pts]: 2x Butcher cannon array, 2x Hellflamer, Mark of Nurgle ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [38 PL, 717pts, ] ++ Detachment CP [1CP] Legion: The Purge Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Devastation Battery + HQ + Warpsmith [4 PL, 71pts]: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Combi-plasma, Flamer, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Power axe, The Daemon's Eye, Warlord + Fast Attack + Bikers [8 PL, 181pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun . Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun . Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter . Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter . Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter . Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-melta + Heavy Support + Havocs [7 PL, 160pts]: Mark of Nurgle . Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword . 2x Havoc w/ lascannon: 2x Lascannon . 2x Havoc w/ missile launcher: 2x Missile launcher Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Nurgle, 2x Obliterator Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Nurgle ++ Total: [117 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5478824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 As much as I love Chaos Bikers I would eschew them in lieu of more havocs with lascannons or reaper chaincannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5478864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 I think that sounds like a solid change, if I drop the bikes I can pick up havocs w/2 las and 2 chain cannons. The few extra points I have can add few more Cultists or give my champions special weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5478893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 man bikers with BP + 3 melta would work IMO. I don't see a 7 man unit with the new base as exactly easy to hide + maneuver on table top. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5479116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Here are some of my Purge units I have been working on. Master of Possession, I consider him done. My Oblits, these guys are almost done. And my Possessed, done. Edited March 1, 2020 by McElMcNinja Tallarn Commander, Celtic_cauldron, Azekai and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5483977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Looks great, especially the MoP! The fire is very nicely done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5483994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulhunter1995 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Looking good :) Keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361809-the-purge/#findComment-5487156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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