Daemon Prince Marbas Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Does anyone use Vanguard Space Marines to model as true scale uncorrupted Alpha Legionaries? I love their tactical aesthetic befitting the legion harrows and while I also love the spikes and skulls baroque style of Chaos I think the tacticool look fits AL better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-serpent Tylydox Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I guess whatever floats your boat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5478363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I'd definitely grab the wrist computers for Alpha Legion (their "iconic" look was, ironically enough, closer to the previous version of CSM with more trim and scales.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5478460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazSexington Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Does anyone use Vanguard Space Marines to model as true scale uncorrupted Alpha Legionaries? I love their tactical aesthetic befitting the legion harrows and while I also love the spikes and skulls baroque style of Chaos I think the tacticool look fits AL better. They would be wearing MK X power armour though. The new CSMs are also considerably larger than the old ones, but don't have the tacticool look. I get your point though, but there's something that's not going to fit anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5478806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Shouldn't the Alpha Legion have their own version of Primaris via the data they stole from the Raven Guard at Deliverance during the Heresy? Shouldn't the AL be one of the bigger Traitor Legions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5483964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Check out Migsula's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/migsula/?hl=sv Nowadays he's doing BA but scroll down a bit... Edited March 1, 2020 by Excessus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5484189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazSexington Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Shouldn't the Alpha Legion have their own version of Primaris via the data they stole from the Raven Guard at Deliverance during the Heresy? Shouldn't the AL be one of the bigger Traitor Legions? They didn't steal Primaris data though - it was cloning tech. They infected the Raven Guard's programme with a daemon virus, if I remember correctly. I can't remember if they also infected what they liberated with the virus though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5485759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Shouldn't the Alpha Legion have their own version of Primaris via the data they stole from the Raven Guard at Deliverance during the Heresy? Shouldn't the AL be one of the bigger Traitor Legions?They didn't steal Primaris data though - it was cloning tech. They infected the Raven Guard's programme with a daemon virus, if I remember correctly. I can't remember if they also infected what they liberated with the virus though. I think they stole a pure sample. However they turned it over to Horus who gave it to Bile I think. Whether the AL kept some for themselves is not clear (it would be kinda surprising if they didn't though). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5485771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazSexington Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Shouldn't the Alpha Legion have their own version of Primaris via the data they stole from the Raven Guard at Deliverance during the Heresy? Shouldn't the AL be one of the bigger Traitor Legions?They didn't steal Primaris data though - it was cloning tech. They infected the Raven Guard's programme with a daemon virus, if I remember correctly. I can't remember if they also infected what they liberated with the virus though. I think they stole a pure sample. However they turned it over to Horus who gave it to Bile I think. Whether the AL kept some for themselves is not clear (it would be kinda surprising if they didn't though). Aye, canny mind the details. Might need to dig it out again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5485813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Whether cloning or making pure geneseed it should have helped the Alpha Legion bolster their numbers to outnumber the Loyalists and other Traitors by 20-1 by M32 Granted it doesn't matter since the AL are the most fragmented Legion. Still each warband has killed billions or trillions and has crippled the Imperium a thousand times over It is a good thing Omegon doesn't lead the Legion. Even if he rallied just a small portion it is more than enough to wipe out the Sons of Dorn and the Custodes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5485960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Whether cloning or making pure geneseed it should have helped the Alpha Legion bolster their numbers to outnumber the Loyalists and other Traitors by 20-1 by M32 Granted it doesn't matter since the AL are the most fragmented Legion. Still each warband has killed billions or trillions and has crippled the Imperium a thousand times over It is a good thing Omegon doesn't lead the Legion. Even if he rallied just a small portion it is more than enough to wipe out the Sons of Dorn and the Custodes Whether cloning or making pure geneseed it should have helped the Alpha Legion bolster their numbers to outnumber the Loyalists and other Traitors by 20-1 by M32 Granted it doesn't matter since the AL are the most fragmented Legion. Still each warband has killed billions or trillions and has crippled the Imperium a thousand times over It is a good thing Omegon doesn't lead the Legion. Even if he rallied just a small portion it is more than enough to wipe out the Sons of Dorn and the Custodes Frankly AL lore is thin on the ground enough that you can't even say if they're fragmented or not. The only novel to actually go into detail (Sons of the Hydra) had central organization of a sort, and there are references to "legion high command" which may or may not be related. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5485962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Whether cloning or making pure geneseed it should have helped the Alpha Legion bolster their numbers to outnumber the Loyalists and other Traitors by 20-1 by M32 Granted it doesn't matter since the AL are the most fragmented Legion. Still each warband has killed billions or trillions and has crippled the Imperium a thousand times over It is a good thing Omegon doesn't lead the Legion. Even if he rallied just a small portion it is more than enough to wipe out the Sons of Dorn and the Custodes Each warband has killed billions/trillions? Hell, given there's thousands of Alpha Legion warbands out there, guess that makes it gg guys, Chaos has already won, every planet left under Imperial control are obviously just AL plants. If what you've said is true, then they don't need to have Omegon to wipe out the Sons of Dorn and Custodes, as the Imperium is already a smoking ruin after each and every warband has crippled it a thousand times over each. Why even bother with the Black Crusades, just send out a warband of 30-40 Alpha Legion and watch them cripple the Imperium again. ...Which is why what you've said isn't true, but pure and unadulterated fanboy hype. Please man, tone it down. I know you only get your information from TvTropes and assorted wikis, but that's just horribly, horribly wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5486084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Ghorstangrad was a hive world, which means it was home to billions...and when they left it was a Chaos sandbox. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5486088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Some warbands have done that, sure. However, this was a blanket assertion that every AL warband has killed billions to trillions, and crippled the Imperium a thousand times over, each. That is simply not the case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5486138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) I think they stole a pure sample. However they turned it over to Horus who gave it to Bile I think. Whether the AL kept some for themselves is not clear (it would be kinda surprising if they didn't though). FW's Horus Heresy Book 3: Extermination seems to hint towards it: "As the war of the Horus Heresy raged on, the Legion demonstrated an enviable ability to replace its battlefield losses. While the war continued and many Legions saw their strength shorn away, the Alpha Legion appeared to grow stronger throughout the conflict, despite several seemingly serious defeats. Much like the hydra of myth, where one head was cut from the Legion's body, two more appeared to grow in its place." (p.91) But even if they managed to bolster their numbers like that, we have yet to see how it played out in the long run. Edited March 5, 2020 by Lay Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361946-alpha-legion-primaris/#findComment-5486317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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