GuardDaddy Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Theory Crafting.... Psychic Conclave gives a 1CP boost to Primaris Psyker with Wyrdvane Support. 1 CP: Psychic Conclave - If Wyrdvane Psyker within 6" of Primaris Pysker - both get +2 to cast for duration of phase and can cast additional power This struck me as good value as either of the two buffs are good, and both are strong. As a fan of guard psykers - I think they are hugely underrated - I thought about putting together an example of what an 'all in' approach would like. I've included statistical chance of getting powers off. Taking average chance of success as 50%+ - this 173pt set up gets on average 8 mortal wounds a turn. 40pts: Aradia Madellam Psychic Augment -(Friendly unit +1 to hit) (8) - 6 with Psychic Conclave (72%) SMITE 1 (5) - 3 with Psychic Conclave (97%) Becomes Super SMITE on 9+ (28%) 42pts: 6 Wyrdvane Psykers - SMITE 2 (6) - 4 with Psychic Conclave (50%) Mental Fortitude (Auto-pass morale) (4) - 2 with Psychic Conclave (83%) 46pts: Primaris Pyker SMITE 3 (7) - (58%) 15pts: Astropath (laspistol) Psychic Maelstrom (mortal wound on 2/3/4/5/6) (7) - (58%) 15pts: Astropath (laspistol) Nightshroud (-1 to hit friendly unit) 6 (72%) 15pts: Astropath (laspistol) Psychic Barrier (+1 Saving throw) 6 (72%) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On the one hand yes, but...Wyrdvane's are still rubbish and will die instantly. In order to Smite/be in range for the strat they have to be fairly close to the enemy, which they won't like. :-/ And outside of Psychic Maelstrom and Acadia's power, I don't see it worth it bringing them in just for the strat. I'd rather use the CP for a reroll if needed I think. GuardDaddy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5477768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 On the one hand yes, but...Wyrdvane's are still rubbish and will die instantly. In order to Smite/be in range for the strat they have to be fairly close to the enemy, which they won't like. :-/ And outside of Psychic Maelstrom and Acadia's power, I don't see it worth it bringing them in just for the strat. I'd rather use the CP for a reroll if needed I think. oh yeah they are still achingly bad - no charachter key word so can get nuked! Interested in seeing how you could leverage the buff though. They more than double effectiveness of Primaris Psyker, 2x spell AND +2. So even 3, hidden - can buff up the Psyker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5477790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hm 15pts for an astropath is hard to beat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5477934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Tucking those guys behind a wall of bullgryn is a very interesting set up though. I think you want to lead off with your smites from the wyrdvanes 1d6 cast value. Edited February 17, 2020 by mertbl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5478036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Considering that wyrdvanes require CP and a primaris psyker to be usable I'd still probably take the astropath. Sure the astropath sucks at smite, but I can get 3 astropaths for the price of 1 primaris psyker. To get 3 casts you would need to spend 67 points. There's only 3 psychic powers from the psykana discipline worth taking and an astropath is just fine for casting those powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5478075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 My argument is use them all. Go all in on Psychic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/361983-a-psychic-scream-greater-good-mortal-wound-mayhem/#findComment-5478142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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