TraceTheKriken Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I would like to use the blessed boltgun relic from the Gorgonnes docrine on a tempestor prime (auxiliary detachment and then deployment via stratagem to snipe a character). The problem is that this relic can be equipped only on models with boltguns, but a tempestor prime can't have a boltgun. Maybe they intended bolt pistols (that would explain the range)? let me know what you think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Yeah for now you can't take it. I thought maybe they were for Commissars, but they can't take <regiment> items. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 :facepalm: definitely sounds like a question for the GW faq email  40kfaq@gwplc.com  :tu: walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Bolt pistol is also a bolt weapon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraceTheKriken Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited)  War Angel Bolt pistol is also a bolt weapon The rule says "boltgun" and not "bolt weapon" unfortunatelly   definitely sounds like a question for the GW faq email  40kfaq@gwplc.com Thx, I'll write to them right now with some extra questions XD Edited February 19, 2020 by TraceTheKriken librisrouge and duz_ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Considering the weapon's profile and the fact that MT cant have bolters i would take this relic in place of a bolt pistol without fear. I think that any wise opponent would agree too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraceTheKriken Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Â PhubarConsidering the weapon's profile and the fact that MT cant have bolters i would take this relic in place of a bolt pistol without fear. I think that any wise opponent would agree too. In the end of the day I did it with the bolt pistol in a friendly game and killed a neurothrope (I was really lucky). Interesting option for sure, but I'll need to try it in a more "competitive" scenario. RAI or not they need to FAQ it anyway, just to be clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Yes, the FAQ is mandatory but until it i would use the relic without any problem :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5479760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I thought that relic was odd when I read the profile...its RAW also suggests there is a typo in the boltgun bit and they intended it to say boltpistol. Â I always thought it was weird that Sions cant have bolters yet standard sergeants in infantry squads can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I would agree, except it has rapid fire and not pistol. It's a bit of a weird gun really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraceTheKriken Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) KevlarsharkI thought that relic was odd when I read the profile...its RAW also suggests there is a typo in the boltgun bit and they intended it to say boltpistol. Â I always thought it was weird that Sions cant have bolters yet standard sergeants in infantry squads can. to be fair tempestor primes are kind of trash if you compare them to a company comander. Sure you have armor 4+ (useless in a lot of situations on a t3 profile) and deep strike, but it loses the 5+ invul (why?) and has one less order. if you want to give 1 extra order you have to pay 5pt, but you lose your range option. Oh yes and you can give orders to tempestus scions only. Idk, it's a bad thought model IMO Edited February 22, 2020 by TraceTheKriken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 40pts for a deepstriking CC, with the unique order and the ability to take a bonus warlord trait. Seems pretty good. Plus some of those warlord traits are nice. 1cp for an ignore cover ability isn't bad. Sure, not having a gun kind of sucks, but it isn't the end of the world. Edited February 22, 2020 by Trickstick Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraceTheKriken Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Ignoring cover Is really situational( especially if you are vehicle hunting). Maybe against eliminators or something like that could be interesting, but we'll see. I was talking more about pre greater good, now they are a little bit better for sure (at least they can make their support role decently now). The lack of inv save (the relic doesn't count) still bothers me anyway XD Edited February 23, 2020 by TraceTheKriken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The primary purpose of this thread was to determine if there was an error in the rules. We have since determined it is, so the thread will be closed. Tactica regarding Scions can goto the other relevant threads. TraceTheKriken 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362056-9th-iotan-gorgonnes-relic-cant-be-used/#findComment-5480716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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