Road to Thramas: Part 4- March 2nd

[Aztek]

Putting up the thread so it's up for tomorrow's reveal depending on the time they do it.

 

Feel free to speculate and/or wishlist what you want to see tomorrow.

[m_r_parker]

Honestly, I’m hoping we’re going to get some info on when the book is going to be released. I’ve got some Dark Angels ready to be built and painted, but I want to hold off until we get more info on the various aspects of the Legion.

 

More realistically, maybe a PA Night Lords unit, or maybe a character.

[Archangel975]

Adepticon is coming sooner than later, I've already started my DA Legion. I hope I haven't bit off more than I can chew... but, I've decided on 2K baseline. Anything else is bonus.

That being said, I kind of apprehensive of what the book will say about heraldry. I'm hoping I'm doing at least the minimum embellishment for things, as I don't want to go back repainting... I'd sooner buy new stuff and keep going forward.

I'm looking forward to this 4th update... hopefully it is book 9 stuff...

[WITCHKING501]

I'm hoping to see some Legion specific Dreadnaughts/bikes/landspeeders like the White Scars and the Blood Angels got. 

 

Either that or a Character of either Legion would be huge.

[Darkwrath121]

Adepticon is coming sooner than later, I've already started my DA Legion. I hope I haven't bit off more than I can chew... but, I've decided on 2K baseline. Anything else is bonus.

That being said, I kind of apprehensive of what the book will say about heraldry. I'm hoping I'm doing at least the minimum embellishment for things, as I don't want to go back repainting... I'd sooner buy new stuff and keep going forward.

I'm looking forward to this 4th update... hopefully it is book 9 stuff...

Everything in Road To Thramas is for book 9, so no fear there!

[Marshal Rohr]

I’m wondering if they won’t include a few allies options. Nothing huge, just a couple of pages for true Skitarii and some more Imperial Army stuff since the lore is about a sector wide campaign with all elements of the loyalists and traitors fighting. That way they free up some room for future supplements.

[Darkwrath121]

I’m wondering if they won’t include a few allies options. Nothing huge, just a couple of pages for true Skitarii and some more Imperial Army stuff since the lore is about a sector wide campaign with all elements of the loyalists and traitors fighting. That way they free up some room for future supplements.

At the risk of reading into it too much, a tweet asking about the contents of the article was given a non-answer written in binary. So it's possible.

 

While I'd sooner expect Skitarii alongside Dark Mechanicum in book 10, I'm ready to be surprised by something Mechanicum.

[rendingon1+]

I’m wondering if they won’t include a few allies options. Nothing huge, just a couple of pages for true Skitarii and some more Imperial Army stuff since the lore is about a sector wide campaign with all elements of the loyalists and traitors fighting. That way they free up some room for future supplements.

There is already allies chart in every red book. What do you mean?

Edited March 2, 2020 by rendingon1+

[Marshal Rohr]

In Tempest, a one on one legion book, they included a few pages for Automata units. I'm hoping they'll include the Carnodon, Moirax, Armigers, and basic Skitarii infantry.

Edited March 2, 2020 by Marshal Rohr

[SkimaskMohawk]

Tempest had the cults and militia list in it as well

[Aztek]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/02/the-road-to-thramas-part-4-marvellous-mindersfw-homepage-post-2/

 

These guys are bloody gorgeous! Even if you just want them for the parts, they're amazing. Great head sculpts, great swords, cool shields, they got it all!

[Unknown Legionnaire]

Yeah, they're actually the first of the DA special units that I do like.

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

These are absolutely amazing! I love them!  
I don't think that I can afford another 30k force, but if there would be a chance I would go with the First. 

[Gorgoff]

To me the first DA unit I don't like 100%. Those armors look too much like MKVII and they scream 40k to m. But nice they are and as usual we have to wait for the unpainted version.

[Cris R]

To me the first DA unit I don't like 100%. Those armors look too much like MKVII and they scream 40k to m. But nice they are and as usual we have to wait for the unpainted version.

 

I agree. Everything else looks great except for the helmets, which crash straight into 40k territory. I may replace the helmets with the ones from the Interemptors, which I think should make them blend more into the DA list I'm putting together. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by Cris R

[rendingon1+]

Wonder how rules/point cost is like. They seem to be kind of invictarus eq. but with ap3 or power fist option. Doesn't feel me with joy when I think of duelling with these guys, buffs or not.

+ I think winged helmets should be more officer thing not unit.

Edited March 2, 2020 by rendingon1+

[Archangel975]

I absolutely love these new officer sculpts!

This is the ostentatious embellishment I was worried about not having. They should be knights, different from the line units in both heraldry display and officers preference. I feel they would have a knightly countenance even before Caliban because of close ties with the custodes. Some of that gold had to rub off at some point, right?

 

Think about it: We've all had the 40K forces forever now. This is something special for the officer units, they explained it perfectly. The bone white ties into the DeathWing/SpaceHulk perfectly. The noble self-sacrifice of life, honored with a specific coloring opposite the normal coloring to the legion, Bone-White.

Can you imagine how many (or few) Legionaries would have that honor bestowed by the emperor?! They were his first legion, at least some of them would have had the chance to do that and maybe even survive. It didn't have to start on Caliban either, because, Hey, this is the Heresy! We are starting the scroll from the beginning! All this can created out of whole cloth, as long as the elements we do have are woven together with some skill. And you all know the heavy-handedness GW treats their fluff with so many times in the past. I'm glad its getting the finesse it deserves. Alan Bligh would like this.

 

The helmets are interesting, I wouldn't get lost on that necessarily, they had to come from somewhere at some point in time. And, I am compelled to consider it a far better start point than the native-american lineage DeathWIng gave them in Rogue Trader... Even as such a stickler for canon fluff as I am, I have to say, I like this better. I could almost insist that it does fit with the DeathWing storyline, as they painted their suits bone-white because of the sacrifice they were embarking on. They were taking on half a planet of genestealers... That would be a honor worthy of the Bone-White...

 

So, I like these new sculpts.

Lets hope the Primarch is just as Knightly.

[jaxom]

 

To me the first DA unit I don't like 100%. Those armors look too much like MKVII and they scream 40k to m. But nice they are and as usual we have to wait for the unpainted version.

 

I agree. Everything else looks great except for the helmets, which crash straight into 40k territory. I may replace the helmets with the ones from the Interemptors, which I think should make them blend more into the DA list I'm putting together. 

 

 

Huh, to me the overall aesthetic looked like an artificer half-way between MkIII and MkIV.

 

I absolutely love these new officer sculpts!

 

The helmets are interesting, I wouldn't get lost on that necessarily, they had to come from somewhere at some point in time. And, I am compelled to consider it a far better start point than the native-american lineage DeathWIng gave them in Rogue Trader... Even as such a stickler for canon fluff as I am, I have to say, I like this better. I could almost insist that it does fit with the DeathWing storyline, as they painted their suits bone-white because of the sacrifice they were embarking on. They were taking on half a planet of genestealers... That would be a honor worthy of the Bone-White...

 

In the News, Announcement version of this thread, there's some light debate on if Tale of Two-Heads Talking is still canon. One argument was that it's a story told to initiates that didn't really happen, but conveys the horror of returning home to find it corrupted and sacrificing everything to purify it.

[Gorgoff]

 

 

 

 

To me the first DA unit I don't like 100%. Those armors look too much like MKVII and they scream 40k to m. But nice they are and as usual we have to wait for the unpainted version.

I agree. Everything else looks great except for the helmets, which crash straight into 40k territory. I may replace the helmets with the ones from the Interemptors, which I think should make them blend more into the DA list I'm putting together.

Huh, to me the overall aesthetic looked like an artificer half-way between MkIII and MkIV.

I absolutely love these new officer sculpts!

 

The helmets are interesting, I wouldn't get lost on that necessarily, they had to come from somewhere at some point in time. And, I am compelled to consider it a far better start point than the native-american lineage DeathWIng gave them in Rogue Trader... Even as such a stickler for canon fluff as I am, I have to say, I like this better. I could almost insist that it does fit with the DeathWing storyline, as they painted their suits bone-white because of the sacrifice they were embarking on. They were taking on half a planet of genestealers... That would be a honor worthy of the Bone-White...

In the News, Announcement version of this thread, there's some light debate on if Tale of Two-Heads Talking is still canon. One argument was that it's a story told to initiates that didn't really happen, but conveys the horror of returning home to find it corrupted and sacrificing everything to purify it.

Yupp, it's from Ravenwing written by Gav Thorpe.

Cool book and this very story is told to introduce DA into higher levels.

[Brother-Captain Gilead]

 

 

To me the first DA unit I don't like 100%. Those armors look too much like MKVII and they scream 40k to m. But nice they are and as usual we have to wait for the unpainted version.

 

I agree. Everything else looks great except for the helmets, which crash straight into 40k territory. I may replace the helmets with the ones from the Interemptors, which I think should make them blend more into the DA list I'm putting together. 

 

 

Huh, to me the overall aesthetic looked like an artificer half-way between MkIII and MkIV. 

 

Same here and I think that this might be artificer versions of Caliban made MKIV battleplate which has been mentioned in a couple of the Black Library books (essentially Caliban had an industrial base to create and arm almost everything basic that Space Marines required on the planet, which made Luthor's rebellion that much easier as he could recruit from the population and arm them as well without involving nearby systems which also fed into Caliban's total isolation during the Heresy with pretty much nobody knowing it was even going on).

[rendingon1+]

It just follows the FW line of design that a fancy armour with asditional panels, non standard parts and some kind of decorations is artficer. Simple as that.

[Cris R]

Again, I don’t have an issue with the body armor, which looks amazing and majestic. It’s exactly what I wanted out of a Deathwing unit. It’s just the helmets don’t work for me and I’ll replace them. If the helmets work for others, that’s good too. Pick what’s best for you and enjoy your hobby Edited March 3, 2020 by Cris R

[Darkwrath121]

Again, I don’t have an issue with the body armor, which looks amazing and majestic. It’s exactly what I wanted out of a Deathwing unit. It’s just the helmets don’t work for me and I’ll replace them. If the helmets work for others, that’s good too. Pick what’s best for you and enjoy your hobby

[rendingon1+]

We don't know their rules/cot yet (and we don't know if they updated rules for both swords) but judging by snippets we already have (artificer armour, shield, caliban blaes/terranics/power fists?) I'm kind of worried they MIGHT overlap with Cenobium purposewise. Of course there are many factors that need to be taken into account Like: full rules lol, legion special rules, RoWs, sepcial chracter buffs, means of transportations etc. but for now I'm on standby about them.

 

Crazy and unfounded rules speculation: when one of this dudes dies in a challange and takes more wounds thn he has they do not overspill

 

I'm just curious how their bodyguardyness/meatshieldery is represented.

Edited March 3, 2020 by rendingon1+

[Cris R]

We don't know their rules/cot yet (and we don't know if they updated rules for both swords) but judging by snippets we already have (artificer armour, shield, caliban blaes/terranics/power fists?) I'm kind of worried they MIGHT overlap with Cenobium purposewise. Of course there are many factors that need to be taken into account Like: full rules lol, legion special rules, RoWs, sepcial chracter buffs, means of transportations etc. but for now I'm on standby about them.

This is really on point. It's not like Dawnbreakers and Crimson Paladins where you had a smidge of overlap on sword options between the two units but otherwise allow players to use them for very different roles on the battlefield. But I'm excited to see the full rules and figure out how to pop them into my list. That's part of the fun, right?