Castle Wolfenstein Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I recently started a CSM army, about 1250 points worth at the moment. I currently have a Battalion of Red Corsairs for the CP and a Patrol Detachment of World Eaters because I like their vibe and I wanted access to some of the cool F&F relics and strats such as Gorefather and Red Butchers. I have two squads of Havocs that I have not yet painted, one with 4 lascannons and one with 4 auto cannons. I'm wondering what to do with them, should I make them World Eaters so they have access to VotLW but not endless cacophony or should I make them Red Corsairs so that they can use endless cacophony but miss out on VotLW? What do you all think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate Khornate Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Double shooting with the ability to psychic boost them is more viable than +1 to wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5488524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Gonna have to agree Double tap is a rule Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5488526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Wolfenstein Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sounds good, thanks. Was leaning that way but wasn't sure since my 40k intuition is usually wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5488531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Meh Practice with both versions honestly You might like the extra wound more then the double tap Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5488538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Lascannons get more out of shooting twice. Autocannons are nice and cheap, but generally aren't worth using either strat on. In such a small list with no other shooting then you might as well. But in larger lists, the point of the autocannons is that they have long range and aren't worth your opponent shooting at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5488617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snazzy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Might help to make your detachment a Devastation Battery. Extra round of shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5489232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Mix them with x2 las and x2 auto's so you don't have all the las in one gift basket for the opponent, run as corsairs for double tap. Run a dve battery on the detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5489267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Wolfenstein Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Ive never run the dev battery before, with only 1 battalion I dont know if I have the CP for that since I need to save some to get my murder on when the red butchers come in. But it seems like something to consider when I eventually expand to 2 battalions. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5489276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Even if you don't use dev battery, having the havocs as red corsairs is much better. Double tap shooting is better because you have bonus CP from corsairs. You won't miss vets strat with that advantage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5489385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Wolfenstein Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 I like the idea of making 2 squads of 2x las and 2x auto. As you said its a good way to mitigate the risk of all the lascannons getting wiped early. thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362464-what-to-do-with-my-havocs/#findComment-5489575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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