Schlitzaf Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 With a new wave of upgrade sprews having come out. What do you expect or want from upgrade sprews and at what price? And by extension upgrade sprews as way to faciliate both unit options, and new units? Also while related to above questions what makes a sprew bad and whay makes it good? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Shoulder pads, one or two unique helmets, some unique bits like pteruges for ultras etc and maybe one unique weapon for the sgt for that specific codex. Mmmmm Napalm 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarik Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I think having both chapter specific shoulderpad transfers and shoulderpads with icons on them was a big waste. Would have much rathered the sprue space for the shoulderpads be used to either make more unique ones (not just with a raised chapter icon), or used for different bits. Mmmmm Napalm and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagoth Ur Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I'd wish that GW didn't make the upgrade sprue so synchronous in their content - let me explain. In my opinion, upgrade sprues should cater to the aesthetic sensibilities of that given faction/chapter/legion. So, by that logic, I'd rather that the Iron Hands upgrade sprue had more cybernetic arms, maybe even a cybernetic leg, a chest or two to swap out with regular intercessors etc. As is, you only get two pairs of cyber-arms per kit and they are in the same pose as well. For White Scars, I would have loved to see more of the mongolian tassel-work decorations, maybe some actual tulwars, top-knots and trophies. In general, I think that putting shoulder-pads with raised detail onto the sprue is a huge waste of space when modern transfers are so easy and quick to use, as well as room-saving. Subtleknife, Mmmmm Napalm, Hymnblade and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 All this is about what we want, but would we pay for our upgrade sprews? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagoth Ur Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 All this is about what we want, but would we pay for our upgrade sprews? If I got an IH upgrade sprue with enough parts to properly cyberize 5 marines per sprue, I'd pay the current price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I have no idea if there will ever be a new Black Templar upgrade sprue, but if there is, I'd primarily want tabards and knight helms from it. It's already easy to put symbols on shoulder pads and chains on weapons. Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Agreed, shoulder pads are not really of interest to me as any squads with them would stick out compared to the rest of my army which has transfers. IMHO the old upgrade sprues were much better than the Primaris ones in this regard. While shoulder pads were still a big part of it, the additional of a few alternate torso pieces and extra details could really help make the Sergeant stand out and capture the character of the chapter. Aarik 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Speaking of which, why do the Primaris upgrade sprues only have 9 should pads, even when they are supposed to kit out a 10-man squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Speaking of which, why do the Primaris upgrade sprues only have 9 should pads, even when they are supposed to kit out a 10-man squad? You get 1 Tacticus Sergeant Shoulder Pad, and 4 Tacticus pads and 1 Gravis Sergeant and 2 Gravis pads per frame. The Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Ultramarines and Blood Angels get 1 in their box.... Because reasons (all the new ones are two of the same sprue) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Speaking of which, why do the Primaris upgrade sprues only have 9 should pads, even when they are supposed to kit out a 10-man squad? You get 1 Tacticus Sergeant Shoulder Pad, and 4 Tacticus pads and 1 Gravis Sergeant and 2 Gravis pads per frame. The Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Ultramarines and Blood Angels get 1 in their box.... Because reasons (all the new ones are two of the same sprue) Just a guess, but I think GW went to the 2-per-package approach to better match the kits up with the 10-man Intercessor/Hellblaster Squad boxes. It seems like the Combat Squad boxes were in part meant to pair up with those early upgrade kits, but with the Combat Squad boxes not being available anymore, GW may figure it's better to offer the newer upgrade kits in handy 10-man versions. I know there are boxed sets out there with only five Intercessors or Hellblasters, but unless I missed one, those were all out of production and generally unavailable by the time the new upgrade kits came out late last summer and early fall. (And yeah, that also forces the guy with a three-man Gravis squad to buy twice the package he needs, but with Tacticus models being much more prevalent they very well could have decided to take their cue from the Intercessor/Hellblaster kits. After all, the vast majority of players sitting on just a three-man Gravis squad most likely have at least ten Tacticus models). Edited March 13, 2020 by Lord Nord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Plus having three extra Gravis pads, may be used to justify buying agressors/inceptors. Edit: I've wondering if the big 4 will get a second upgrade sprue at some point. Edited March 14, 2020 by Jorin Helm-splitter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I have no idea if there will ever be a new Black Templar upgrade sprue, but if there is, I'd primarily want tabards and knight helms from it. It's already easy to put symbols on shoulder pads and chains on weapons. and then I would buy at least 10 packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5490997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The Black templars one is nearly perfect. imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5491024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 5 unique shoulderpads 5 Chapter/Legion pads 3-5 helmets assorted gubbins NO transfers- transfers should be their own set. NO terminator pads- those are blatantly just there to push up the price for relatively minimal actual value. Hoping we get CSM Legion upgrade sets eventually. Edited March 15, 2020 by Lucerne Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5491042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I would like some helmets and then some sort of weapon chainswords/axes for flesh tearers upgrade spruce long knives for raven guard mechanical legs/arm for iron hands gladius for ultramarines hooded helmets/heads for dark angels stuff like that would be worth it alongside shoulder pads we get Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362521-upgrade-sprues-what-should-they-be/#findComment-5491052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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