The Saint Ragnar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Where did you see the rules preview video? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 https://www.goonhammer.com/saga-of-the-beast-review-space-wolves/ Goonhammer review is up. Bolts of Morkai looks very solid. Lord Ragnarok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdr Fell-fist Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Don’t know about the video preview, but Goonhammer have their review of Saga of the Beast up now. I’m very glad I magnetised the power Fists on my Intercessor Pack Leaders in case we got Thunder Hammers for them! Edited March 21, 2020 by Valdr Fell-fist Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Iron breaker helm auto completes your warlords deed, to buff it to anaura if it kills something. Wolf tail is cool, -2 to all psykic tests within 18" Twolves get a mortal wound charge via strats? Wolf gaurd get a mortal wound on 6 via strats Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 With the helm you need to kill a character and wolf guard strat is only against infantry :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 The thing about the character is you can not declare him but if he is a cheap little guard character or something you could have piled near him and knock him with the helm. Also helps finish off a weak unit that you want to clear so your units can hit the next line of things. I'm a little confused as to why Ulrik didn't get an update in this book. Looks like we will have a day 1 FAQ on our hands like Shadowsun. Looks like litanies will fall into line with all others but if Ulrik can keep his oath and chant then we might see more use of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Wow, so first of all what is this feeling having solid competition for the relic slot? This stuff sounds pretty great actually and seems like it’s going to open up a lot of synergies and plays for us. I’m excited to dive it. GrFlur and Wolf Guard Dan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Strikingscorpion82 on youtube is my go to for previews Big units of TWC are looking awesome right about now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Wow, so first of all what is this feeling having solid competition for the relic slot? This stuff sounds pretty great actually and seems like it’s going to open up a lot of synergies and plays for us. I’m excited to dive it. Wolg Lord with stalker bolt rifle and Morkais Teeth Bolts. If you hit cause 1 MW and all attacks re-roll to wound 1 against target unit. Lieutenant buff anywhere sounds really good. Karhedron and ranulf the revenant 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Wow, so first of all what is this feeling having solid competition for the relic slot? This stuff sounds pretty great actually and seems like it’s going to open up a lot of synergies and plays for us. I’m excited to dive it. Wolg Lord with stalker bolt rifle and Morkais Teeth Bolts. If you hit cause 1 MW and all attacks re-roll to wound 1 against target unit. Lieutenant buff anywhere sounds really good. I was thinking the same but a BL to keep cost down if he’s going to be a marker light :) It makes my OG 8th BL long Fang babysitter pretty nasty now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshikai Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I am a big Fan of that Shadow Spear Phobos Battle Leader, but never knew if I where going to really utilize him. Morkais Teeth Bolts are certainly an incentive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 storm song relic - replaces master crafted stalker bolt rifle 36" heavy 1 str 6 ap -3 dam 3 ( can snipe ) wyrdbane relic rune sword only +1 str ap -4 damage d3 ( reroll wound rolls, if target is psyker treat damage as a flat 3 (instead of d3)) runic armor 2+, 5 + invuln mountain breaker (infantry only) - after you've resolved the characters attacks, before consildation, select one enemy unit within 1" of the character, roll a D6, on a 2+ the target takes D3 mortal wounds. - if this ability kills a character, and if the bearer of this relic is your warlord, treat your warlords deed as complete storm shield costs blizzard shield ( 15 ) characters ( 10 ) T wolves ( 5 ) everyone else ( 2 ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I love that we can give runic armor to our units again and that it counts as the 2+ it used to. The question is does the update count towards the runic armor we can give our priests? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hey! Twolves finally got them cheaper after what 2 years? I see a real use case for running them cheap with chainsword/shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hey! Twolves finally got them cheaper after what 2 years? I see a real use case for running them cheap with chainsword/shield. Cheap is the way to go now, use them to clear chaff and if they survive take on the tanks behind with the 1CP strat for two damage teeth and claws. Maybe spend another CP to re-roll wound rolls of 1 and they can become pretty dangerous to just about anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hey! Twolves finally got them cheaper after what 2 years? I see a real use case for running them cheap with chainsword/shield. and combo the wolf guard strat to generate mortal wounds + they now have a mortal wound charge and emergency bite. which I take is what they gave them to eat through horde armies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) TWC got 5 point stormshields in chapter approved Wyrdbane is a dark horse for a relic. Stick that on a Phobos rune priest/primaris rune priest and theyve 5 attacks with that statline. Add on fury of the wolf spirits Edited March 21, 2020 by Dark Shepherd TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Sorta disappointed that there was no Successors strategem, given that now the Wolves apparently have Primaris Successors. On the other hand I had already expected that as GW seems to be ignoring that whole subject outside of Black Library. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultionis Lupus Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Just pre-ordered the box set from Goblin Games. £82 with free delivery, splitting the box with my Orky brother so I'm getting the wolf side for £37. Pretty pleased as I don't have any of the troops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Sorta disappointed that there was no Successors strategem, given that now the Wolves apparently have Primaris Successors. On the other hand I had already expected that as GW seems to be ignoring that whole subject outside of Black Library. Given how that went with Blood Angels, you're probably better off not having any successor rules...they seem to be very limiting in the case of non-codex chapters. Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) while imnot a fan of our super doctrine, I will just treat it as a bonus. you cant really rely on that, if you hit 6's cool, if not my list needs to be good enough without it thats also why im not a fan of incursors, being reliant on a 6 isn't being reliable im trying to make out any other point changes but its pretty hard to read the youtube vids Edited March 21, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 while imnot a fan of our super doctrine, I will just treat it as a bonus. you cant really rely on that, if you hit 6's cool, if not my list needs to be good enough without it thats also why im not a fan of incursors, being reliant on a 6 isn't being reliable im trying to make out any other point changes but its pretty hard to read the youtube vids Therell only be the points for new/updated units? The Stormfang strat is amazing, shane stormwolves dont get it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshikai Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 While I had loved to see it on a Stormwolf, I tend to see them more often than Stormfangs, at least this way there is an incentive to maybe consider him?! Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Sorta disappointed that there was no Successors strategem, given that now the Wolves apparently have Primaris Successors. On the other hand I had already expected that as GW seems to be ignoring that whole subject outside of Black Library. Given how that went with Blood Angels, you're probably better off not having any successor rules...they seem to be very limiting in the case of non-codex chapters. That's more of a personal thing for me. I only play homebrew chapters. If I ever played Blood Angels or Space Wolves, I would create a successor chapter first before any more plans. Of course in a friendly game nobody would care, but it's still annoying for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yeah, after reading the goonhammer review I’ve got mixed feelings. I am really happy that we definitely get some nice relics to choose from now, a lot of really great close combat related buffs, and one or two small shooting buffs, but I feel like it falls just short by leaving out any way to help us make it into combat before being shot off the table or whittled down to be too weak to finish the job. It feels like getting a lot of cool toys for Christmas but you can’t really play with them yet because your parents didn’t get batteries. Only the batteries may never come. So you can’t really complain that you didn’t get anything nice (because you did, I mean you really did) and so you feel like you have to hide your disappointment so that you’re not called ungrateful. We’ll see. Maybe it will be enough and my disappointment will fade as I start winning a few more games. I think I’ll try to stay cautiously optimistic that this helps on the tabletop until I’ve had a chance to play some games. TheWolfLord 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362721-saga-of-the-beast-rules/page/2/#findComment-5494334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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