Fallen

[Skywrath]

++ Warning! Heresy ahead! Read at your own risk! ++

 

Fluff aside, I have a few questions about the Fallen. 

 

1. How would you run a fallen army, assuming such a thing is possible? Would primaris be allowed, in a "fallen" army?

2. I found no reference to Cypher being mentioned in any other faction, does that technically mean you could run him in a Dark Angel army? 

3. Assuming the Fallen weren't loyalist, what set of rules would you use to play them on the table-top?

 

[Gederas]

1: Build them like you would a Dark Angels force, probably without a Ravenwing/Deathwing equivalent, but likely with Bikers/Terminators as support elements maybe? To the second: No, absolutely not. Fallen are specifically the Calibanite Legionnaires who sides with Luther.

2: Yeah, they got rid of the rule where Cypher & Fallen can't be taken with Dark Angels. While SUPER MEGA ULTRA HERESY it means you can get three more squads of Company Veterans with Plasma (because that's what Fallen are, rules-wise)

3: Fallen are in Codex: Chaos Space Marines along with Cypher. They have a specific Specialist Detachment in Vigilus Ablaze.

[Skywrath]

1: Build them like you would a Dark Angels force, probably without a Ravenwing/Deathwing equivalent, but likely with Bikers/Terminators as support elements maybe? To the second: No, absolutely not. Fallen are specifically the Calibanite Legionnaires who sides with Luther.

2: Yeah, they got rid of the rule where Cypher & Fallen can't be taken with Dark Angels. While SUPER MEGA ULTRA HERESY it means you can get three more squads of Company Veterans with Plasma (because that's what Fallen are, rules-wise)

3: Fallen are in Codex: Chaos Space Marines along with Cypher. They have a specific Specialist Detachment in Vigilus Ablaze.

 

1. When I pull up the Fallen faction on Battlescribe, it gives me two options - Cypher (HQ), and Fallen (Elite). Which would mean your option for company veterans would work, however I don't see other options such as terminators or bikers, is there a rule or something I am not seeing? Also would there be any hillarious (relatively) mechanics between the Dark Angels and Fallen if they are a part of the same faction, on table-top?

 

2. What kind of heresy would I have to engage in, in order for Cypher to be correctly imputed into a Dark Angels army. On the Vigilius Ablaze PDF (after finding a copy), it said that there is a specialist detachment option, however I don't see it on the list. (Oh boy the Interrogators are going to have a field day with me, can see it from a mile away).

 

3. Will look at that soon. 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Knight-Master Skywrath

[Gederas]

Yeah, you have to do a themed army, kind of like this one from Warhammer Community's Eddie. Otherwise, you have Cypher, the Fallen unit and Chaos Rhinos and Chaos Sorcerer if you take the detachment. Basically what I mean is taking Chaos Marine units and fluffing them as Fallen.... Or just using a Horus Heresy Dark Angels army as a "counts-as" Chaos Marine army

 

And the way you put Cypher and Fallen into an Dark Angels is simple: Cypher + 3 squads of Fallen = Vanguard Detachment. Your army is now legal and battle forged, as you have an IMPERIUM keyword army

 

Said detachment Fallen Angels

Allows stock Sorcerers and Chaos Rhinos that share a Vanguard Detachment with only Fallen Angel units to swap out their normal keywords for the IMPERIUM and FALLEN keywords; the Sorcerers also replace Death to the False Emperor with the Fallen Angels ability from their datasheet.

Warlord Trait: Agent of Discord: Exclusive to Cypher (and subsequently isn't actually a WT), but it's a doozy of an ability. Enemies within 12" of Cypher can't benefit from any abilities that would allow them to gain, recycle, or refund CP. No WTs, no special rules, nothing at all. As an added bonus, having 10 or more friendly FALLEN ANGELS nearby boosts the aura's range to 18", which jumps to 24" if there's more than 20 of them so you can maximize the impact of your "no CP for you!" aura.

Stratagems:

Without a Trace (1 CP): At the start of the enemy shooting phase, a FALLEN ANGEL unit entirely within or on a terrain feature subtracts 1 to hit from all shooting rolls targeting them.

Ancient Enmity (1 CP): When selecting a FALLEN ANGELS unit to fight, re-roll wounds against Dark Angels.

Relic: Caliban Steel Blade: Replaces a Force Sword. If the user makes a wound roll of 6+, it does d6 damage instead of d3 damage.

 

Which means if you take the Specialist Detachment, you CAN'T use them with Imperium units, as they FAQ'd it to remove the IMPERIUM keywords from everything. Prooooooooobably because they forgot to add the rule in so that Chaos Sorcerers in the specialist detachment can't summon Daemons.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Gederas

[Skywrath]

1. So theoretically speaking, I could use a terminator with the exact same load-out as a fallen (let's assume it's power-sword and combi-bolter), and just assign the fallen stat-sheet to him? Wouldn't that raise some eyebrows? What about things that are specific to terminators, such as crux terminates invulnerable saves that are not on the stat-sheet?

 

2. I see, will definitely play around with that idea in the future though.

 

3. Damn, that warlord trait is.. bonkers for lack of a better word. If I make Cypher the warlord of my DA force, could I use that trait if he was slotted into a vanguard detachment (not specialist)? How about the stratagems - I presume that I can use the fallen ones, but not the Dark Angel ones in that case? Or can I use both? 

 

4. What exactly is a specialist detachment?

[Gederas]

1. So theoretically speaking, I could use a terminator with the exact same load-out as a fallen (let's assume it's power-sword and combi-bolter), and just assign the fallen stat-sheet to him? Wouldn't that raise some eyebrows? What about things that are specific to terminators, such as crux terminates invulnerable saves that are not on the stat-sheet?

 

2. I see, will definitely play around with that idea in the future though.

 

3. Damn, that warlord trait is.. bonkers for lack of a better word. If I make Cypher the warlord of my DA force, could I use that trait if he was slotted into a vanguard detachment (not specialist)? How about the stratagems - I presume that I can use the fallen ones, but not the Dark Angel ones in that case? Or can I use both? 

 

4. What exactly is a specialist detachment?

1: No, I meant use the relevant Chaos Space Marines datasheet for them. So a squad of "totally Fallen Terminators" are actually the Chaos Terminator unit. Because Fallen are in Codex: Chaos Space Marines and unless you use only a single Vanguard detachment (if abiding by Rule of 3), you can only have Cypher and 15-30 Fallen.

 

3: You get that ability by unlocking the Detachment. It is an isn't a Warlord trait (because Cypher can't have a Warlord trait), but since it's exclusive to Cypher and is the special character bonus....

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

 

4: It's something added in the Vigilus books. Essentially, you pay 1 Command Point before-game to turn a detachment into the relevant specialist detachment.

[Skywrath]

 

1. So theoretically speaking, I could use a terminator with the exact same load-out as a fallen (let's assume it's power-sword and combi-bolter), and just assign the fallen stat-sheet to him? Wouldn't that raise some eyebrows? What about things that are specific to terminators, such as crux terminates invulnerable saves that are not on the stat-sheet?

 

2. I see, will definitely play around with that idea in the future though.

 

3. Damn, that warlord trait is.. bonkers for lack of a better word. If I make Cypher the warlord of my DA force, could I use that trait if he was slotted into a vanguard detachment (not specialist)? How about the stratagems - I presume that I can use the fallen ones, but not the Dark Angel ones in that case? Or can I use both? 

 

4. What exactly is a specialist detachment?

1: No, I meant use the relevant Chaos Space Marines datasheet for them. So a squad of "totally Fallen Terminators" are actually the Chaos Terminator unit. Because Fallen are in Codex: Chaos Space Marines and unless you use only a single Vanguard detachment (if abiding by Rule of 3), you can only have Cypher and 15-30 Fallen.

 

Still a fairly interesting option to run. So I am limited to Cypher and a Firstborn squad whether tacticals, assault or devastator, correct? Which would probably the HH Dark Angels for the thematic.

 

3: You get that ability by unlocking the Detachment. It is an isn't a Warlord trait (because Cypher can't have a Warlord trait), but since it's exclusive to Cypher and is the special character bonus....

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

 

Duly noted, I already have some pretty nasty ideas about that bit of information. *chuckles evilly*.

 

4: It's something added in the Vigilus books. Essentially, you pay 1 Command Point before-game to turn a detachment into the relevant specialist detachment.

 

And if I choose to run them aside my Dark Angels, I would have to spend 1 CP correct?

 

In blue.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Knight-Master Skywrath

[ValourousHeart]

 

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

 

Normally with a Fallen army you are making a Chaos SM army, but self limiting your choices to units that "look like they are Dark Angels".  What that means exactly will vary greatly from player to player.

 

The only down side to making a force containing both Fallen and Dark Angels this is that you lose out on any single faction bonuses.  So the Dark Angels would lose Grim Resolve and Defenders of Humanity.  The Fallen would also lose the Chaos equivalents. 

 

Now that Luthor is out and gathering the Fallen to him, we might see a shift in how Fallen play, but we haven't seen those rules yet.  I'm hoping for Fallen to shift to being more indistinguishable from Dark Angels.  No longer the morally questionable hero and the noble villain.  Hopefully we'll get a disinformation campaign where the fallen start to function like the Dark Angels in an attempt to sow doubt in the imperium as to the loyalties of the Dark Angels, and the Dark Angels only exacerbate the problem with their attempts to keep the Fallen a secret.  Could be a nice introduction for the Dark Imperium and the return of Johnson.

[Gederas]

 

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

Normally with a Fallen army you are making a Chaos SM army, but self limiting your choices to units that "look like they are Dark Angels".  What that means exactly will vary greatly from player to player.

 

The only down side to making a force containing both Fallen and Dark Angels this is that you lose out on any single faction bonuses.  So the Dark Angels would lose Grim Resolve and Defenders of Humanity.  The Fallen would also lose the Chaos equivalents.

If you run them in separate detachments, you keep the Battle-Forged bonuses... Which is what I said to do

 

Also: Fallen don't have that anyway, since they're Elite and not Troops

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Gederas

[ValourousHeart]

 

 

Still a fairly interesting option to run. So I am limited to Cypher and a Firstborn squad whether tacticals, assault or devastator, correct? Which would probably the HH Dark Angels for the thematic.

 

Well Luthor did come back during the Vigilus Campaign... so it would be an interesting twist if Luthor met with Guilliman to collect his allotment of Primaris on behalf of the Dark Angels.  Those units would aid in that disinformation campaign I mentioned above, adding credibility that these are the Dark Angels and not just some band of Chaos Marines trying to impersonate the Dark Angels.

 

But yeah there would be no rationale for Fallen having access to Primaris.

[ValourousHeart]

If you run them in separate detachments, you keep the Battle-Forged bonuses... Which is what I said to do

Also: Fallen don't have that anyway, since they're Elite and not Troops

 

Sorry I've been reading the Sisters of Battle codex lately.  For some reason I thought that Grim Resolve worked like Sacred Rites (all units in all detachments share a keyword) instead of like Order Convictions (All units in this detachment share a keyword).

[Skywrath]

 

 

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

 

Normally with a Fallen army you are making a Chaos SM army, but self limiting your choices to units that "look like they are Dark Angels".  What that means exactly will vary greatly from player to player.

 

The only down side to making a force containing both Fallen and Dark Angels this is that you lose out on any single faction bonuses.  So the Dark Angels would lose Grim Resolve and Defenders of Humanity.  The Fallen would also lose the Chaos equivalents. 

 

In light of your amendment, is that still the case?

 

Now that Luthor is out and gathering the Fallen to him, we might see a shift in how Fallen play, but we haven't seen those rules yet.  I'm hoping for Fallen to shift to being more indistinguishable from Dark Angels.  No longer the morally questionable hero and the noble villain.  Hopefully we'll get a disinformation campaign where the fallen start to function like the Dark Angels in an attempt to sow doubt in the imperium as to the loyalties of the Dark Angels, and the Dark Angels only exacerbate the problem with their attempts to keep the Fallen a secret.  Could be a nice introduction for the Dark Imperium and the return of Johnson.

 

 

I had a theory with Berzul a while back where the fallen are the key to the Dark Angel redemption. As I said to him, imagine if Johnson wakes up, makes peace with the fallen - not only would the secret be safe, it would also be non existent, as the fallen don't officially exist anymore. Plus that caters to the Lion's needs to counter Gullimans' legion building heresy - when he awakens I don't think he will be too happy to learn about that fact (and honestly I would love to see the Lion knocking some sense into him). 

 

 

 

3.5: If you have a DARK ANGELS detachment and the FALLEN ANGELS detachment, you can use Dark Angels Stratagems on the DARK ANGELS units, and you can use the FALLEN ANGELS (as well as the Codex: Chaos Space Marines) stratagems on the FALLEN ANGELS.

Normally with a Fallen army you are making a Chaos SM army, but self limiting your choices to units that "look like they are Dark Angels".  What that means exactly will vary greatly from player to player.

 

The only down side to making a force containing both Fallen and Dark Angels this is that you lose out on any single faction bonuses.  So the Dark Angels would lose Grim Resolve and Defenders of Humanity.  The Fallen would also lose the Chaos equivalents.

If you run them in separate detachments, you keep the Battle-Forged bonuses... Which is what I said to do

 

Also: Fallen don't have that anyway, since they're Elite and not Troops

 

 

Duly noted. 

 

 

 

 

Still a fairly interesting option to run. So I am limited to Cypher and a Firstborn squad whether tacticals, assault or devastator, correct? Which would probably the HH Dark Angels for the thematic.

 

Well Luthor did come back during the Vigilus Campaign... so it would be an interesting twist if Luthor met with Guilliman to collect his allotment of Primaris on behalf of the Dark Angels.  Those units would aid in that disinformation campaign I mentioned above, adding credibility that these are the Dark Angels and not just some band of Chaos Marines trying to impersonate the Dark Angels.

 

But yeah there would be no rationale for Fallen having access to Primaris.

 

Where did you get that piece of information from. I've been catching up on my DA lore, would want to add that to the list. However, it very well could be, and something they would definitely do. It would be interesting to see the parallels with my theory (see my response to ValorousHeart) where both factions essentially "forgive" each other. The fallen incorportated into the Dark Angels once again, with the primaris being collected as a sign of trust between them and the Lion (before he went to sleep) to sabotage Gullimans efforts. While the Dark Angels view them as long-lost brothers for that act, and their hunt being over. Bit wishy-washy, but a theory nonetherless.

[ValourousHeart]

 

 

Now that Luthor is out and gathering the Fallen to him, we might see a shift in how Fallen play, but we haven't seen those rules yet.  I'm hoping for Fallen to shift to being more indistinguishable from Dark Angels.  No longer the morally questionable hero and the noble villain.  Hopefully we'll get a disinformation campaign where the fallen start to function like the Dark Angels in an attempt to sow doubt in the imperium as to the loyalties of the Dark Angels, and the Dark Angels only exacerbate the problem with their attempts to keep the Fallen a secret.  Could be a nice introduction for the Dark Imperium and the return of Johnson.

 

I had a theory with Berzul a while back where the fallen are the key to the Dark Angel redemption. As I said to him, imagine if Johnson wakes up, makes peace with the fallen - not only would the secret be safe, it would also be non existent, as the fallen don't officially exist anymore. Plus that caters to the Lion's needs to counter Gullimans' legion building heresy - when he awakens I don't think he will be too happy to learn about that fact (and honestly I would love to see the Lion knocking some sense into him). 

 

 

Well Luthor did come back during the Vigilus Campaign... so it would be an interesting twist if Luthor met with Guilliman to collect his allotment of Primaris on behalf of the Dark Angels.  Those units would aid in that disinformation campaign I mentioned above, adding credibility that these are the Dark Angels and not just some band of Chaos Marines trying to impersonate the Dark Angels.

 

Where did you get that piece of information from. I've been catching up on my DA lore, would want to add that to the list. However, it very well could be, and something they would definitely do. It would be interesting to see the parallels with my theory (see my response to ValorousHeart) where both factions essentially "forgive" each other. The fallen incorportated into the Dark Angels once again, with the primaris being collected as a sign of trust between them and the Lion (before he went to sleep) to sabotage Gullimans efforts. While the Dark Angels view them as long-lost brothers for that act, and their hunt being over. Bit wishy-washy, but a theory nonetherless.

 

I'm not a big fan of the "forgive each other" part of your theory.  It doesn't lend much to the "All is War" theme we have going on in 40k.

 

As for the parts about Luthor, most is pretty explicit.

 

Dark Angel Codex - Page 23 - The Darkest Angels - Rumors of a legion of Fallen gathering in the Nihilus Sector.  "Azreal alone suspects the truth of who is leading them"

DA Codex - Page 26 - Azreal - Middle of last paragraph - Azreal carries a burden that none of his predecessors had to carry.

DA Codex - Page 26 - The Lost Oracle - Last sentence - Luthor was freed and his whereabouts are unknown.

DA Codex - Page 144 - The Final Secret - "Luthor is gone now, escaped by unknown means and to unclear ends."

 

I believe there was a reference to Luthor in either the Rise of the Primarch or Viglius Campaign which supported the rumor of a growing legion.

 

The part about Luthor meeting Guilliman and acquiring Primaris is only my fan theory, but I think it has a lot of potential.

Luthor for all of his madness is still a tactical genius, so it only make sense that Luthor leading the Fallen they would develop new tactics and strategies for moving to offence now that they have sufficient numbers.

 

GW is doing a lot for small factions that have a fan following... so the Fallen could be an interesting project for GW.

Sure they could build them up as their on distinct faction, I'd buy that book.

But I think that they would have more universal appeal if they rolled them into the DA codex as a sub-chapter with unique characters, and possibly a section of strats, WLT, and other goodies that are sub-chapter specific.

 

Right now there is huge benefit from playing one of the sub-chapters for the space marines.

Iron Hands and Raven Guard, have cool ways that make them different.

Sisters of Battle and Imperial Knights have cool order convictions or Houses that make running different order or house even with the same list interesting.

Even Blood Angels have a unique chapter master for one of their sub-chapters.

But there is no reason to play a Dark Angels sub-chapter as anything other than Dark Angels with an alternate color scheme currently, and I think that should change.

[Skywrath]

 

 

 

Now that Luthor is out and gathering the Fallen to him, we might see a shift in how Fallen play, but we haven't seen those rules yet.  I'm hoping for Fallen to shift to being more indistinguishable from Dark Angels.  No longer the morally questionable hero and the noble villain.  Hopefully we'll get a disinformation campaign where the fallen start to function like the Dark Angels in an attempt to sow doubt in the imperium as to the loyalties of the Dark Angels, and the Dark Angels only exacerbate the problem with their attempts to keep the Fallen a secret.  Could be a nice introduction for the Dark Imperium and the return of Johnson.

 

I had a theory with Berzul a while back where the fallen are the key to the Dark Angel redemption. As I said to him, imagine if Johnson wakes up, makes peace with the fallen - not only would the secret be safe, it would also be non existent, as the fallen don't officially exist anymore. Plus that caters to the Lion's needs to counter Gullimans' legion building heresy - when he awakens I don't think he will be too happy to learn about that fact (and honestly I would love to see the Lion knocking some sense into him). 

 

 

Well Luthor did come back during the Vigilus Campaign... so it would be an interesting twist if Luthor met with Guilliman to collect his allotment of Primaris on behalf of the Dark Angels.  Those units would aid in that disinformation campaign I mentioned above, adding credibility that these are the Dark Angels and not just some band of Chaos Marines trying to impersonate the Dark Angels.

 

Where did you get that piece of information from. I've been catching up on my DA lore, would want to add that to the list. However, it very well could be, and something they would definitely do. It would be interesting to see the parallels with my theory (see my response to ValorousHeart) where both factions essentially "forgive" each other. The fallen incorportated into the Dark Angels once again, with the primaris being collected as a sign of trust between them and the Lion (before he went to sleep) to sabotage Gullimans efforts. While the Dark Angels view them as long-lost brothers for that act, and their hunt being over. Bit wishy-washy, but a theory nonetherless.

 

I'm not a big fan of the "forgive each other" part of your theory.  It doesn't lend much to the "All is War" theme we have going on in 40k.

 

As for the parts about Luthor, most is pretty explicit.

 

Dark Angel Codex - Page 23 - The Darkest Angels - Rumors of a legion of Fallen gathering in the Nihilus Sector.  "Azreal alone suspects the truth of who is leading them"

DA Codex - Page 26 - Azreal - Middle of last paragraph - Azreal carries a burden that none of his predecessors had to carry.

DA Codex - Page 26 - The Lost Oracle - Last sentence - Luthor was freed and his whereabouts are unknown.

DA Codex - Page 144 - The Final Secret - "Luthor is gone now, escaped by unknown means and to unclear ends."

 

I believe there was a reference to Luthor in either the Rise of the Primarch or Viglius Campaign which supported the rumor of a growing legion.

 

The part about Luthor meeting Guilliman and acquiring Primaris is only my fan theory, but I think it has a lot of potential.

Luthor for all of his madness is still a tactical genius, so it only make sense that Luthor leading the Fallen they would develop new tactics and strategies for moving to offence now that they have sufficient numbers.

 

GW is doing a lot for small factions that have a fan following... so the Fallen could be an interesting project for GW.

Sure they could build them up as their on distinct faction, I'd buy that book.

But I think that they would have more universal appeal if they rolled them into the DA codex as a sub-chapter with unique characters, and possibly a section of strats, WLT, and other goodies that are sub-chapter specific.

 

Right now there is huge benefit from playing one of the sub-chapters for the space marines.

Iron Hands and Raven Guard, have cool ways that make them different.

Sisters of Battle and Imperial Knights have cool order convictions or Houses that make running different order or house even with the same list interesting.

Even Blood Angels have a unique chapter master for one of their sub-chapters.

But there is no reason to play a Dark Angels sub-chapter as anything other than Dark Angels with an alternate color scheme currently, and I think that should change.

 

 

Neither am I, but if you were to look at the Lion and how he deals with things, more specifically Russ after the HH, his pattern becomes pretty obvious. He escalates things, then he asks for forgiveness (looks like our primarch is a bit of a drama queen, frankly). So while I cringe at that idea, it's entirely within the parameters of how the our primarch operates. The other alternative is viewing the theory from a pragmatic, businesslike approach, rather than a personal one. E.g. Gulliman is building a legion, so I need a legion of my own. 

 

It's a shame, I was hoping for something along the lines of a novel. But still an interesting bit of information nonetheless.

[ValourousHeart]

 

It's a shame, I was hoping for something along the lines of a novel. But still an interesting bit of information nonetheless.

 

Novels are good for telling a story.  But the tidbits in the codex are great for sparking imagination.

[shabbadoo]

The majority of The Fallen are pretty much screwed, and there will be no general "forgiveness." You might as well think that the Imperium will "forgive" the Traitor Legions some day. The only Fallen that might possibly be able to be forgiven are those who were unknowingly duped by Luther and who also refused Chaos once they found out what was going on, but that were too late to do anything about it or get off of Caliban before the Dark Angels fleet showed up and blew it apart. Whichever of them survived all of that were then sucked into the warp.  And how many of them yet live? That is likely only a very small portion of the Fallen. As to the others, they're only recourse is a bolt to the brain.

 

We need a trilogy of campaign books.

 

War of Angels: Traitor

 

War of Angels: Awakening

 

War of Angels: Reckoning

 

Good way to introduce new Dark Angels Primaris models, and surely other factions will be drawn in, so a good way to release some models for them too.

 

The Fallen should be run as a variant Chaos force for now.

Edited March 29, 2020 by shabbadoo

[Skywrath]

The majority of The Fallen are pretty much screwed, and there will be no general "forgiveness." You might as well think that the Imperium will "forgive" the Traitor Legions some day. The only Fallen that might possibly be able to be forgiven are those who were unknowingly duped by Luther and who also refused Chaos once they found out what was going on, but that were too late to do anything about it or get off of Caliban before the Dark Angels fleet showed up and blew it apart. Whichever of them survived all of that were then sucked into the warp.  And how many of them yet live? That is likely only a very small portion of the Fallen. As to the others, they're only recourse is a bolt to the brain.

 

We need a trilogy of campaign books.

 

War of Angels: Traitor

 

War of Angels: Awakening

 

War of Angels: Reckoning

 

Good way to introduce new Dark Angels Primaris models, and surely other factions will be drawn in, so a good way to release some models for them too.

 

Which is exactly what I said before and meant. Sorry for the confusion!