NemFX Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 A vanguard sergeant may replace his bolt pistol and/or chainsword with a relic blade. A relic blade is two handed. I'm reading this as they can take two of them. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Are you going by battlescribe or the actual codex wording? In this case however, technically yes he can. But he can only use one and there is no benefit from having 2 (as per lightning claws) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Honestly I keep having conflicts of information between Battlescribe and the Blood Angels codex. Points values especially. I miss the old days where everything was way more straightforeward :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Printed codex points are out of date due to rolling revisions by chapter approved, errata, psychic awakening etc... battlescribe is pretty much on the kinect for points and options usually but if you have a query it's best to look at the actual wording in the codex. Weapon options are worded quite specifically, though some have been altered by later publications - for example intercessor sergeants can now take some other melee weapons like fists and thunder hammers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Relic blade is not described in the rules as a two-handed weapon. It only used to be modelled this way in the old VanVet kit. Current kit has it modelled being held in one hand. Although it still is a huge sword with a long hilt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 2h is no longer a thing. Besides, there is no benefit to having two melee weapons other than choice during combat (I.E. a sword and an axe, or a sword and mace etc). Exception being two lightning claws and two chainswords on >= 2 attack models i believe? Edited April 5, 2020 by Spagunk Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Honestly I keep having conflicts of information between Battlescribe and the Blood Angels codex. Points values especially. I miss the old days where everything was way more straightforeward :/ I get what you are thinking. But back then we were stuck with balance issues for years.. As of now the game gets updated much more often and once you get back in to it, the new way isn’t that bad. I strongly recomed the digital codexes and updates such as chapter approved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 As the others have said there is no 2-handed anymore nor would there be a benefit of taking two relic swords as it doesn't increase your amount of attacks or anything. Also from what you quoted you wouldn't be able to take two anyway. You just have the option to trade either both or only one of your cs/bp combo away to get it. Logically you wouldn't trade the pistol away but there might be modeling reasons for it. Also if you have your battlescribe files up to date the point costs are correct. Are you perhaps missing the chapter approved updates? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363021-rules-contradiction/#findComment-5501916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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