Terminator wolf lord loadout?

[Graymane]

Hello folks,

 

Just after some advice for wolflord loadout in terminator armour. Im looking at converting abaddon but want it to be both cool looking and practical for gaming purposes. 

 

What would you suggest loadout wise?

 

Cheers,

 

GM

[Oshikai]

Since its such a Badass Model I would probably use Cataphraktii rules for that 3++ and not wanting to Hide any details behind a Stormshield. Then I would either go for Thunderhammer and Axe of Black Death or keep that awesome Claw and go Power Fist (Wolf Claws lack the Damage I would like to see with that amount of High Quality attacks) and Black Axe. Maybe even use Chainfist Rules.

 

Edit:

(You can see I am being maybe a bit Lax here with WYSIWIG, but its an amazing Model, rather than trying to bend it too much to make optimal Loudout work, I rather bend the Rules to the Visuals,just my personal approach)

Edited April 14, 2020 by Oshikai

[PeteySödes]

Its really tough because personally I would just use Grimnar or Arjak if i was feeling the desire to take a TDA lord. I actually had looked at using Abby as the base for my Arjak model too! I feel like you cant go wrong with hammer/shield or hammer/combi.

[BadgersinHills]

Maybe a Njal Stormcaller conversion? Hammer is likely the optimal weapon for a Lord. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by BadgersinHills

[Kallas]

Power/Chainfist is a good shout for one.

 

A Storm Bolter/Frostfang is also an option.

 

For Relics, you could take Frostfang with the Storm Bolter, to make his shooting more effective; Mountainbreaker Helm could also work, just dropping extra damage; Adamantine Mantle could also be good, for additional resilience.

 

Definitely agree with Oshikai that a Cataphractii Lord is the way to go for such a beefy model.

[Graymane]

Hmm. See I had thought about both wolf claw and storm shield as I had been eyeballing a blizzard dread shield and murder claws claw.

Also have a selection of wulfen weapons.

Generally so much to choose from.

[theprophetofwar]

I have a similar problem and input. I'd second a thought on cataphractii Lord. Has 2+/3++ and can take a good melee and a good gun. With the cost of hammers now though, i'd lean more into guns like combos and even Frost fury and use a chainfist or power fist. My hang up is picking a relic weapon for a model like this. If you pick a thunder hammer and stormbolter that's 3 points less than Logan who has similar damage there with better auras.

Which,I think a Logan proxy is perfectly valid and good these days, especially if you are bringing wolf guard anyway.

[Karack Blackstone]

Can some models still destroy save granting wargear? Like the Sniper Vindicare Assassin?

 

If so, Cata WL with SS, weapon to taste, likely a SB if you need shooting, a Frost Axe is usually cheap enough and extra S and AP worthwhile.

 

Or, failing that, either a PS or FS which might be a Relic with enough CP in the list. I think there's a Relic Frost Sword or Relic Power Sword now worthy of consideration.

 

If not, the SS becomes either a SB or another melee, as the built-in 3++ is nice.

 

Cata WL, Relic Sword / Axe, Adamantine Mantle, and maybe a Relic SB or BG like Frost Fang on a durable model with Morkai's Bolts might be expensive, but damn would he wreck some face.

 

Edit: right Assassin would help.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Karack Blackstone

[Kallas]

Can some models still destroy save granting wargear? Like the Sniper Vindicare Assassin?

 

No. The only thing like it that I can think of was that Jain Zar used to be able to 'parry' a weapon away, making a model unable to use it for the Fight phase (although I'm pretty sure she's now lost that ability).

[Karack Blackstone]

 

Can some models still destroy save granting wargear? Like the Sniper Vindicare Assassin?

 

No. The only thing like it that I can think of was that Jain Zar used to be able to 'parry' a weapon away, making a model unable to use it for the Fight phase (although I'm pretty sure she's now lost that ability).

 

Cata WL seems like a seriously durable base for a lot of firepower, just don't want to overinvest.

 

I guess it's more figure out the mission he will perform, and kit out for that objective. If he's a sniper, snipe; melee'er, melee; buffer, buff. The options are there, and two can be combined as there's no more item loss in the game if you're right.

 

I figure SB / FS or PS, maybe swap to a Relic is good, or if one needs hitting power, FA or PA is another option to go with here.

 

We can Relic load, the problem is how much is too much.

 

Cata WL

- SB/BG, Relic Morkai's Bolts

- Relic The Black Death, required weapon to replace

 

- Maybe, Adamantine Mantle?

 

That's 3 CP though, however if it helps, and he can live a while, the points and CP might help. If too much, just scale back.

 

A SB with R:MB's is going to hurt though.

[theprophetofwar]

Hmm. If leaning gun relics, Cata wl with chain fist, Combi plas, and morkai's teeth bolts. 117pts. Seems tough and versatile enough for the models base look. It's nice that our relics are harder to choose from now.

[Karack Blackstone]

Hmm. If leaning gun relics, Cata wl with chain fist, Combi plas, and morkai's teeth bolts. 117pts. Seems tough and versatile enough for the models base look. It's nice that our relics are harder to choose from now.

I realize I'm CP Loading, however it is a thought.

 

Cata WL

- SB, R:MB's

- Armor of Russ

 

Options:

- The Black Death

- Some other deadly Relic Melee weapon

- That Chainfist is tasty

- Adamantine Mantle

- There's other decent options

- Mountain Breaker Helm?

 

There's a reason to if able squeeze on the AoR if allowed, if not, take it elsewhere.

 

Still, this guy should come in at 120 or less, depending on choices.

[theprophetofwar]

I know we are veering a little on the ops conversion plans and uses, but I look forward to how these ideas stack up when it's wolf Lord week in the other threads, heh. Anyway, well, as much as I like the armor of Russ, I can't really see using it on a wolf Lord, less so on a Lord that has a 3++ base. I know you are aiming for the relic's effect, not the 4++, but still... I'd rather his back up hqs like battle leaders wear the armor.

 

If you are wanting a big ol shield and the claw on a conversion like that, I say go for it. Can always use the cataphractii rules for the defensive stats and just attach a cut down storm bolter to the claw, wrist mounted like greyknights and Logan. Play as claw, powerfist or chainfist. Doubt you would have many problems with wysiwyg. With catlord you'd keep the gun and melee weapon and have a big baddass shield represented for your look.

Edited April 14, 2020 by theprophetofwar

[TiguriusX]

I am an outlier

 

My preference is chainfist and combi melta

 

CF = I'm too cheap to buy TH but still wanna kill primaris etc. with each attack

 

Combi melta = I have BS2 reroll 1s...I'm using it

 

But I never run that because it costs more than Primaris Ragnar...and he is an auto take essentially

Edited April 14, 2020 by TiguriusX

[Guest Triszin]

Since its such a Badass Model I would probably use Cataphraktii rules for that 3++ and not wanting to Hide any details behind a Stormshield. Then I would either go for Thunderhammer and Axe of Black Death or keep that awesome Claw and go Power Fist (Wolf Claws lack the Damage I would like to see with that amount of High Quality attacks) and Black Axe. Maybe even use Chainfist Rules.

 

Edit:

(You can see I am being maybe a bit Lax here with WYSIWIG, but its an amazing Model, rather than trying to bend it too much to make optimal Loudout work, I rather bend the Rules to the Visuals,just my personal approach)

I vote cataphraci with frost fury and a T hammer