Dhar'Neth Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Sorry if this question was already answered elsewhere. So... the rules confuse me - if I attach a vigilator consul to a unit of 9 seekers in rhino, can the unit both infiltrate and scout in rhino? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 IIRC yes they can if the Rhino is a dedicated transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5510860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorpion Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Yes, but not in a rhino. The DT for seeker squads is the Land Raider Proteus, if I'm not mistaken. Edited April 22, 2020 by The Scorpion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5510947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Both the unit and the attached Independent Character need to have the Infiltrate USR for them to be able to infiltrate together, and infiltrate gets only passed on to a unit's dedicated transport if the unit selecting it has infiltrate by themself. So the answer is 'no'. EDIT: Scouting is possible though, since the Proteus can scout via the 'Explorator Augury Web', giving you a scouting LR (which is awesome) and scouting Seekers at transport capacity eight. Edited April 22, 2020 by Unknown Legionnaire Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5510952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeychunks Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 In general, a character cannot ever pass Infiltrate to a unit and vice versa. The Seekers and Rhino have to deploy normally within the bounds of the mission. The Vigilator is then deployed later during the Infiltrate sub-deployment. However the unit is al ready on the tabletop. It's a common misconception that you can 'declare' a character as attached. However this attachment only takes place after both elements have deployed, at which point the unit has to be stuck in the DZ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5510956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The Vigilator is such an odd Counsel. His sneakiness makes him seem like he's cut out to be with a Recon Squad but his ammunition marks him out for Seeker duty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5510996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorpion Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 The Vigilator is such an odd Counsel. His sneakiness makes him seem like he's cut out to be with a Recon Squad but his ammunition marks him out for Seeker duty. Not only that, but I'm not sure if he is even compulsory. I believe he doesn't have 'support officer' like the MoS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Oh well... so the unit wouldn’t benefit from infiltrate or scout... Back to the drawing board! (Seeker are so strange unit... for a Fast Attack, they aren’t that fast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Re-read my above post. Seekers can do a 12'' scout move when riding in a Proteus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic Thunder Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Can the vigilator not pass his scout USR to the seeker squad? Save some points on the augury web... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Can the vigilator not pass his scout USR to the seeker squad? Save some points on the augury web... Sure, that works fine as well. Might as well take a Rhino & Vigilator combo, or the Proteus without the need for the Vigilator. Scout gets passed on, infiltrate does not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There are ways to give seekers infiltrate. Alpha legion is one, i think playing as the raven guard would also give infiltrate. I know Sevatar can give infiltrate to any 3 infantry units. Ghorgul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5511800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 The Vigilator is such an odd Counsel. His sneakiness makes him seem like he's cut out to be with a Recon Squad but his ammunition marks him out for Seeker duty. Sneaky sniper consul? No combi weapon for you! The Scorpion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363394-vigilator-infiltrating-with-a-unit/#findComment-5512451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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