malika666 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Hi guys, Help needed. I was wondering how big exactly the difference between the old and new models is exactly. For example: How big is the old Forgeworld resin Thunderbolt compared to its new plastic counterpart? Do you guys have some pics to show comparing the sizes? I'm speculating that the new ones are about 25% bigger, is that a correct estimation? Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) You couldn't be further from the truth I'm afraid, malika. the new plastic thunderbolts sold by Games Workshop are designed for the Aeronautica specialist game, and are barely larger than a space marine. Forgeworld's Thunderbolt meanwhile is the traditional 40k scale, and are significantly larger as a result. Edited April 28, 2020 by spiros14 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5513825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Erm...the old resin Aeronautica Imperialis (Epic scale) models weren't in 40k scale, I'm referring to these models: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5513837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 If I recall, Epic was 6mm. AI and AT are approximately 8mm. So, without doing more math than I'm feeling up for, I'd say 25% larger sounds right. Beaky Brigade and Firedrake Cordova 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5513932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I don't have any of the old stuff but a new Thunderbolt has a 72mm wing span and is 63mm long. That's to the end of the sticky out bits like the nose aerial thing - not the hull, which would be a 1-2mm shorter. Firedrake Cordova 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5514099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 If I recall, Epic was 6mm. AI and AT are approximately 8mm. I heard the same thing - it was from one of the GW community briefings at Warhammer World. It led to some ... consternation ... from Epic players, who were unhappy at the change in scale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5514160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hmm, not this whole debate again. Adeptus Titanicus isn't 8mm. Yes, a Space Marine is about 8mm tall, but the scale is more akin to 1/4th of 40k scale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5514350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I have - since about 2004 when I started this hobby - seen only one AI resin force at a GW and I thought it looked cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5514359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hmm, not this whole debate again. Adeptus Titanicus isn't 8mm. Yes, a Space Marine is about 8mm tall, but the scale is more akin to 1/4th of 40k scale. That would make it about 6-7mm, then? (assuming a regular person is 6' and a Space Marine is 7'6") Obviously, for any confusion, it doesn't help that GW said it's 8mm (doh). Doesn't help that GW were a bit ... variable ... with the scale of things in the original Epic stuff ... not sure what the original AI was scaled like, but Mandragola's answer is likely to be the most helpful. :) Arendious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5514364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Well 40k vehicles and infantry aren't scaled correctly next to one another, Landraiders should be the size of a shoebox. I guess you could say that all vehicles across the ranges are scaled smaller than they should be but I look at the AI Thunderbolts next to an AT Warlord titan and I can't believe they're the same scale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5515501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparika Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I would not guess a percentage of size comparison because it's always difficult to get that right, but the difference between old FW Aeronautica in resin and the new plastic is massive.I took a few potato pictures when I sold what I had a while back. The photo are visible here : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ljq6_hCrAsgYyTwb4womyuqOylLzbX9v?usp=sharing Their is a picture with the resin thunderbolt and the plastic ones together and a picture with fighta-bommer. I would say the fighta-bommer could pass for dakkajet in the new scale. malika666 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363541-scale-difference-between-old-fw-models-and-new-plastic-ones/#findComment-5532376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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