b1soul Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) I recall a book mentioned something along the lines that Power Armour increases marine speed and strength by X times. What was X and which book or story was this? Edited May 10, 2020 by b1soul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I'm not exactly sure for that quote, but I do distinctly recall reading a bit in the first Space Wolf omnibus (first novel in it iirc) where it mentions the Power Armour that Ragnar is wearing has enhanced his strength so much that him ripping the hatch off a tank caused damage to the fingers of his armour because he was able to exert so much force onto it/them. It might also be in that novel where it describes how much more it increases the strength/speed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpAcEGhOsT095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) I recall a book mentioned something along the lines that Power Armour increases marine speed and strength by X times. What was X and which book or story was this? I remember something like that from the Night Lords Trilogy. Talos and friends were fighting a Warhound Titan. In the last book, he rips the front of a bridge officer's skull off. Edit- Book 3 - Chapter IX No one had even seen him move, such was the prophet’s speed, clearing ten metres and vaulting a console table in the time it took a human heart to beat once. Edit #2- Book 1 - Chapter XII Talos was the first. Aurum crackled with energy in his fist before a single slash carved a malicious streak through the armour and engineering of the Titan’s ankle. Even one-handed, the blow would have felled a tree or carved a mortal in half. Talos’s own gene-enhanced strength, amplified tenfold by the artificial muscle fibre of his war-plate, was the pinnacle of mankind’s genetic manipulation coupled with some of the Machine Cult’s closest-guarded secrets rediscovered from the Dark Age of Technology. Edited May 10, 2020 by SpAcEGhOsT095 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 IIRC Goto did a space marine in first person perspective and covered this but my best recollection is the Ragnar quote as above with the tank hatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes, but Goto also had Eldar tanks destroyed by children throwing stones. Oxydo and DarkChaplain 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 @ SpAcEGhOsT095 Thanks for bringing up the NL series It also contains this "Talos vaulted a pile of rocks, his boots crashing down on the other side and never missing a stride. His eye lenses flickered runic sigils between eighty-four and eighty-seven kilometres per hour." Don't think it mentions the factor of Power Armour's speed boost though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Age of Darkness has the following excerpt. Not qantitative but nicely poetic. Transhuman dread. Aximand had heard iterators talk of the condition. He’d heard descriptions of it from regular Army officers too. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing: taller and broader than a man could ever be, armoured like a demigod. The singularity of purpose was self-evident. An Adeptus Astartes was designed to fight and kill anything that didn’t annihilate it first. If you saw an Adeptus Astartes, you knew you were in trouble. The appearance alone cowed you with fear. "But to see one move. Apparently that was the real thing. Nothing human-shaped should be so fast, so lithe, so powerful, especially not anything in excess of two metres tall and carrying more armour than four normal men could lift. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing, but the moving fact of one was quite another. The psychologists called it transhuman dread. It froze a man, stuck him to the ground, caused his mind to lock up, made him lose control of bladder and bowel. Something huge and warlike gave pause: something huge and warlike and moving with the speed of a striking snake, that was when you knew that gods moved amongst men, and that there existed a scale of strength and speed beyond anything mortal, and that you were about to die and, if you were really lucking, there might be just enough time to piss yourself first. aa.logan and Indefragable 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5519849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 I might be looking in the wrong place. Perhaps the info is in the SM codex or Fantasy Flight's Deathwatch I remember somewhere it explicitly says Power Amour increases the wearer's speed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5522520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It is a good question on whether Astartes Power Armor provides +1 enhancement in and of itself. Aside on the nature of power armor: Hidden Content My understanding has been that power armor is armor that is powered (duh!)...but more often than not, the power ( electro-mechanical-kinesio-pneumatic-pizio-gizmo-whathaveyou systems) is needed to support the weight of said armor. I’m no mathematician or engineer, but you can easily envision a chart with one axis being level of protection and the other being level of power needed to support the weight of such protection. Think of Certain classes of bodybuilders who can’t do a single pull-up because they’re too heavy for their own muscles. Sounds odd, but it can be the case. Classically depicted Knights In Shining Armor were good for short periods of time in battle since even the most physically fit would tire out wearing that heavy a suit for any period of time. ...so the magic (har har) of power armor is that it essentially creates neutral buoyancy for the wearer: considering the level of protection it provides, the fact that it does not encumber you or slow you down in any way is of itself a marvel of engineering. That is baseline power armor for baseline humans. Where the Astartes really separate from the pack is a combo of factors: A. Black Carapace: their bodies are literally wired into their armor to the point that the armor is essentially a second skin. Try using your phone with gloves on. Now imagine you could use your phone with complete accuracy while wearing an iron gauntlet. Whoa. B. Spartan-ity: the martial nature of SM means they quite literally live in their suits, and when combined with the Black Carapace, means that they have a level of grace—for lack of a better word—inside of it that no one else can ever reproduce. C. 7 for tall super humans: even outside of their armor, It’s likely that Astartes are bigger-stronger-faster and can dunk better than even supreme examples of baseline humanity. So naturally, if you put that person in a suit of armor with “neutral buoyancy”... Lord_Caerolion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363788-which-bl-works-describe-sm-speedstrength-in-pa/#findComment-5522736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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