Brother Clavero Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Could anyone tell me if back banners for sergeants would be proper for 30k? I haven't read all of the HH books so no direction there and don't think that any are shown in the 30k ruleset. I know that they have fallen out of favor in 40k in recent years. I remember when every sergeant, chaplain, captain, dreadnought, etc. had one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Back banners are normally used as Legion Vexilla in 30K which is a different individual to the Sergeant. Its certainly possible but I haven't seen it very often for a Sergeant. Brother Clavero and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/#findComment-5519616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranulf Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 The back mounted Vexilla is common enough in 30K, while some Legions such as the Space Wolves go one step further with back banners - albeit simple leather ones rather than the glorious pieces of tapestry seen since the early days of 40K. At the end of the day, they're your dudes - model them the way you want. Just be clear with opponents what is an actual Vexilla (with a rules effect) and what is just window-dressing. -Ran Brother Clavero and Varyn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/#findComment-5519618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle captain corpus Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Yeah I think the rule of thumb is as above. Go nuts with them if you like but just remember if using a Vexilla to let your opponent know! Personally I’d like to see more back banners from a hobby point of view as I’ve always loved them. Especially on characters! Historically they are used to single out a leader in the battlefield. Similar to how helmet crests worked etc. As we have crests already for Sgts and characters I guess back banners became just a “thing”. BCC Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/#findComment-5519743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft0110 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Well, since Vexillas are an existing bit that comes with all plastic 30k kits and many resin ones, using similar ones should be accepted by anybody. I would not use 40k with Aquilas, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/#findComment-5519782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Clavero Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 I have been doing a little bit of searching in some of the HH books and came across this from The First Heretic Pg.427: " ....reshaping around bannered sergeants....." This was describing Raven Guard forces falling back and regrouping. Now this could be describing Vexillas, back banners, or possibly just a bit of flourish from the author. Hfran Morkai 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363801-sergeant-back-banners/#findComment-5522040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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