Skywrath Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The general consensus for painting Deathwing traditionally are Zandri Dust, Ushabti Bone, Screaming Skull and Seraphim Sepia as a shade. However, I was wondering what colours would you recommend to get them to an ivory colour - something more closer to white, but not quite white? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Old school deathwing can be done going for a more traditional white by following recipes such as white scars. My personal take though for more ivory is to start with wraithbone and mix white to it upwards from there for a very bright slightly cream off white, or alternatively use wraithbone base washed with sepia and work up through tyrant skull back to wraithbone and highlight with screaming skull with a pure white dot highlights for a more contrast heavy look Edited May 17, 2020 by UtariOnzo Gederas and Skywrath 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5522995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) I do oldschool white, here's my recipe: Spray undercoat white, Do all the trim and Bling etc, Full strength Agrax into all recesses, Tidy up panels with Corax White, Wash all panels with 20/80% Agrax/Water, control bleed toward trim. Thin Corax layer on panels avoiding near trim, 'Highlight' edges and weather by ultra light drybrush with Abaddon Black. Plenty of examples in my bloggy thing. Edited May 18, 2020 by Interrogator Stobz Gederas, Skywrath and Zephaniah Adriyen 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5522997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Old school deathwing can be done going for a more traditional white by following recipes such as white scars. My personal take though for more ivory is to start with wraithbone and mix white to it upwards from there for a very bright slightly cream off white, or alternatively use wraithbone base washed with sepia and work up through tyrant skull back to wraithbone and highlight with screaming skull with a pure white dot highlights for a more contrast heavy look I did the Wraithbone > Sepia > Ushabti > Screaming Skull method on my Deredeo's bone areas: Works well as an ivory imo Skywrath, UtariOnzo and Dark Rage 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Old school deathwing can be done going for a more traditional white by following recipes such as white scars. My personal take though for more ivory is to start with wraithbone and mix white to it upwards from there for a very bright slightly cream off white, or alternatively use wraithbone base washed with sepia and work up through tyrant skull back to wraithbone and highlight with screaming skull with a pure white dot highlights for a more contrast heavy look I haven't seen wraithbone base on the store, ironically, but I'll have a look for it. I do oldschool white, here's my recipe: Spray undercoat white, Do all the trim and Bling etc, Full strength Agrax into all recesses, Tidy up panels with Corax White, Wash all panels with 20/80% Agrax/Water, control bleed toward trim. Thin Corax layer on panels avoiding near trim, 'Highlight' edges and weather by ultra light drybrush with Abaddon Black. Plenty of examples in my bloggy thing. I've seen the contemptors you posted in that lockdown thread, is that the same method? Look forward to seeing them fully painted! Old school deathwing can be done going for a more traditional white by following recipes such as white scars. My personal take though for more ivory is to start with wraithbone and mix white to it upwards from there for a very bright slightly cream off white, or alternatively use wraithbone base washed with sepia and work up through tyrant skull back to wraithbone and highlight with screaming skull with a pure white dot highlights for a more contrast heavy look I did the Wraithbone > Sepia > Ushabti > Screaming Skull method on my Deredeo's bone areas: Works well as an ivory imo Maybe even lighter than that picture.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neverborn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 If you can get a hold of the 3rd Edition Dark Angels supplement (try online). There's an amazingly painted Deathwing army in white. I believe the painters name was Kendel Kinrad. As i recall he used what looked like white was navy blue to blend low-lights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Something like this is what I'm after (the colour of the land-raider in the picture). So if the above recommendations would fit that colour scheme, then off to putting your suggestions to practice! https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/warhammer-40k-dark-angels-deathwing-407475567 Disclaimer: Not an advertisement, one of the few pictures when I typed in "3rd edition deathwing" into google images, gave me this result (with the right kind of white). Edited May 18, 2020 by Skywrath Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neverborn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 That doesn't look too dissimilar for the colour i ended up using for my second land raider and my dreadnoughts. I had to use it because I wanted to use my airbursh the i used the 72.734 bonewhite It's about 40% lighter than the original bleached bone colour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandalphon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Old method: http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1232046973/gallery_5435_2406_145457.jpg Something like: Bestial brown base coat, bleached bone layered X2 for panel coverage, 80/20 chestnut wash/ water.. wait until dry! bleached bone (again) 50/50 bleached bone/ skull white white highlights, skull white edge highlights. Let's face it, there were way too many bleached bone layers back then.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) That doesn't look too dissimilar for the colour i ended up using for my second land raider and my dreadnoughts. I had to use it because I wanted to use my airbursh the i used the 72.734 bonewhite It's about 40% lighter than the original bleached bone colour I took a look at the link, and I think off-white is closer what I'm looking at. How would you go about doing that kind of color with GW paints? Old method: http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1232046973/gallery_5435_2406_145457.jpg Something like: Bestial brown base coat, bleached bone layered X2 for panel coverage, 80/20 chestnut wash/ water.. wait until dry! bleached bone (again) 50/50 bleached bone/ skull white white highlights, skull white edge highlights. Let's face it, there were way too many bleached bone layers back then.. That's the kind of color that I was after! Looking absolutely beautiful. To the others, thanks for your advice, I'll put it into action. Edited May 19, 2020 by Skywrath Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neverborn Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Old method: http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1232046973/gallery_5435_2406_145457.jpg Something like: Bestial brown base coat, bleached bone layered X2 for panel coverage, 80/20 chestnut wash/ water.. wait until dry! bleached bone (again) 50/50 bleached bone/ skull white white highlights, skull white edge highlights. Let's face it, there were way too many bleached bone layers back then.. That's exactly how my deathwing was done, or at least the earlier models - Looks good and isn't that hard. If you want to use a brush yes do this but you're going to have a hard time getting hold of those paints. That doesn't look too dissimilar for the colour i ended up using for my second land raider and my dreadnoughts. I had to use it because I wanted to use my airbursh the i used the 72.734 bonewhite It's about 40% lighter than the original bleached bone colour I took a look at the link, and I think off-white is closer what I'm looking at. How would you go about doing that kind of color with GW paints? The colour comes out significantly lighter than any GW "Bone/cream" paints. There's not really an equivalent but it would be like a mixture of Ushabti Bone and white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 This is more or less the current GW recipe. Lots of layers still. To get the lighter colour I'd add another layer of 50:50 Screaming Skull:White Scar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neverborn Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I think if you wanted to get the results you wanted you could do something similar to the above poster and just use more white hi-lighting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5523877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I do oldschool white, here's my recipe: Spray undercoat white, Do all the trim and Bling etc, Full strength Agrax into all recesses, Tidy up panels with Corax White, Wash all panels with 20/80% Agrax/Water, control bleed toward trim. Thin Corax layer on panels avoiding near trim, 'Highlight' edges and weather by ultra light drybrush with Abaddon Black. Plenty of examples in my bloggy thing. I've seen the contemptors you posted in that lockdown thread, is that the same method? Look forward to seeing them fully painted! Here are some complete examples; And other Deathwing things: G8Keeper and Skywrath 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5524083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I paint whiter than the new normal for DW; but tastes are very important, if you like the more cream look go for a recipe like what Brothers Sandalphon or G8Keeper have supplied. Skywrath 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5524086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandalphon Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I don't have a translation for the newer paints, but I do have a squad or 2 in the backlog so I'm curious to see what comes out of this thread. I really like stobz' white and it reminded me that I forgot to add the watered down chaos black shading in my recipe. I still managed to keep a pot of bestial that I've undercoated them with and am eyeballing screaming skull as the next likely candidate to take up to full edge white scar.. (or has that been replaced now too?) I'm thinking I'd shade it with gryphonne sepia which is warmer than agrax but they seem fairly comparable..and might need to test them again. As Stobz' mentioned (and if you've ever painted a house) there's a massive range of whites across the warm to cool spectrum, it's really about finding a look you like and running with it. My last batch (yikes 2012) were 'dirtier' because I was using a cooler white for wings and things as contrast.. http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1347840564/gallery_5435_2406_213183.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5524720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Very cool mini Sandalphon. The current recipe I use for the "creamier" flavour of Deathwing is: Spray Zandri Dust, Zandri Dust pot (pretty thin, to catch any bits missed by spray, whole mini), Gryphonne Sepia wash (can do all over or recess wash depending on how lazy you are), Ushabti Bone layer. Screaming Skull layer (2 or 3 usually as needs to be quite thin), White Scar edge highlight. Skywrath 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5524802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'm actually stripping my Deathwing to paint for the third time even though they're kinda terrible now as Vanguard detachments and Wraithbone is like PERFECT for DW. I'm spraying them Rustoleum white and just brushing the Wraithbone on there because GW spray cans can be hit or miss for like $20. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363946-painting-deathwing/#findComment-5525160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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