If you could have 1 unit in plastic, what would it be?

[Gorgoff]

 

 

 

Pick one of these, they are in descending order of importance but they are all pretty close to each other in importance in my eyes:

 

• Mark II armor - echoing what everybody said, it looks iconic and is OOP
• Plastic jetbikes - I am collecting the 1st, would make making a Ravenwing RoW so much cheaper, they are also iconic to the setting
• Plastic outriders - Same as above
• Plastic Deimos - Could serve as the cheaper plastic base for a lot of sets with FW providing the extra pieces
• Plastic breachers - iconic heresy unit

all of this as the contents of a new starter set XD

Oh yeah, baby, that! Edited May 29, 2020 by Gorgoff

[battle captain corpus]

Plastic Breachers get another vote. With the set having both close combat and ranged equipment. :)

 

BCC

[WrathOfTheLion]

Plastic MK II for me.

 

Many legions like the 1st and Vth predominantly used them still, so it ends up as a big hole in the range.

[Mackenzie]

MKII all day. In another box set with lots of marines and some other bits and bobs.

[Aztek]

MKII and Breachers.

[Arendious]

Destroyers. Especially if they have a rad-missile launcher that doesn't look like a t-shirt cannon.

[lokkorex]

A Mk.II Crusade Armour Tactical Squad, with Umbra Pattern Boltguns.

 

Preferrably in a new boxed set with Dark Angels vs Night Lords.

 

A man can dream...

[Marshal Rohr]

Mark 2 tactical squad

[Lovecraft0110]

Definitely Mark II.

 

You guys will think I'm insane, but I actually prefer resin. For instance, I hate the Calth MK III/IV marines - they are too bulky and out of scale with all pre-existing Heresy infantry models, whilst lacking in detail. Good for kids to get into 30k, to be sure, but otherwise not my cup of tea. And as far as vehicles are concerned, the only tank I have not enjoyed building so far was my Stormblade, precisely because of all the fiddly plastic bits. Give me nice, hefty chunks of resin any day of the week. 

So, I think it's the other way around: The Resin infantry models are way too skinny and out of scale with the rest of GW's range. I've assembled the Night Raptors and I have to say, they have WAY too skinny legs. It doesn't match any artwork depictions of Marines.

 

Well, most of them. I haven't handled the Mark III models yet, but the Mark IV ones I have (Night Raptors and Mark IV Command) are laughably skinny.

 

Well, Gederas, at the risk of derailing the thread, I must disagree. 

 

The Betrayal at Calth box set was published in October 2015. At that stage Forgeworld had been producing 30k models for three years, including MK II, III and IV marines, command sets, lots of Legion special units, characters.... I own virtually all of them, and it is clear that these were all consistent with each other.  These models were created by master sculptors like Bedford or Stutcinkas (the authors of the Imperial Armour series, may I add). It is quite clear that they created these models precisely with the scale and proportions which they thought was right for the Heresy. 

[Marshal Rohr]

It’s impossible to unring that bell though. They’re never going to redo the plastic kits. What we’ve got is what we’ve got.

[MegaVolt87]

Mk II tac squad for sure, then I can go nuts doing Iron Havocs and vets for my IW's. 

[Mogsam]

Not really interested in MKII. I get why people are, but if there was only one plastic kit, I'd rather it gave access to more generic units that can be used widely.

 

Rhino chassis is the obvious one. They've already somewhat done it with the Sisters of battle tanks, so it's not too unlikely. Tho it'd have to be priced well and not some £40 plastic kit.

 

Breachers or Mark iv assault marines would also be a welcome option.

[sarabando]

i think Mk4 assault marines would be the smartest move financially as everyone wants those jump packs. at the rate GW is raising prices its not going to be long before the price between a diemos and mars pattern rhino is going to be negligible.

[BadgersinHills]

Thinking about it, I'd love some Solar Auxilia troops in plastic. Is this a dream that will be popped like a balloon in a porcupine enclosure? Yes. But the possibilities would be amazing. :) 

[MegaVolt87]

i think Mk4 assault marines would be the smartest move financially as everyone wants those jump packs. at the rate GW is raising prices its not going to be long before the price between a diemos and mars pattern rhino is going to be negligible.

 

Man, do I have good news for you if you are in OZ wanting demios rhino vs mars pattern, your wish has come true!   Actually, instead of 10 man mk IV assault squad, what about x5 man mk IV and mk III ones? Costs are down for GW, they make more money off us and we get more options (but not really save....) 

[Chaeron]

Destroyers.

 

I'd love this too - I wonder if it might work with an Assault Squad style kit, and then it's multi-purpose. I'd also like a Destroyer only RoW (okay, well led by a Moritat or similar) - as that would be an amazing theme.

[Master Sheol]

I would like the veichles

FW veichles kits are a nightmare to out together

[sarabando]

 

Destroyers.

 

I'd love this too - I wonder if it might work with an Assault Squad style kit, and then it's multi-purpose. I'd also like a Destroyer only RoW (okay, well led by a Moritat or similar) - as that would be an amazing theme.

 

a mk4 hybrid box would be amazing.

An upgrade kit for the mk3 kit with 10 shield arms and heads with some special weapons in it would also be good.

[MegaVolt87]

I could see specialist units like destroyers, seekers, breachers etc getting a 5 man box in plastic. Plastic upgrade kits are old hat for GW these days, seems as sophisticated they want to go is a more general plastic chapter/ legion upgrade plastics kit. I would pay more for a combined shoulderpad, chest and heads package, add in some unique legion trappings/ honors and you are set. 

[Mogsam]

5 man boxes in heresy would be utterly frustrating. I don't think I've ever taken a 5 man infantry squad that isn't a terminator unit.

[sarabando]

5 man boxes in heresy would be utterly frustrating. I don't think I've ever taken a 5 man infantry squad that isn't a terminator unit.

true a 10 man assault/ destroyer kit would be better.

 

also i know its silly but id love a heresy era Indomni terminator kit, no cruxes lots of power weapon options etc.

[ShadowCore67]

MkII or outriders

[MegaVolt87]

 

5 man boxes in heresy would be utterly frustrating. I don't think I've ever taken a 5 man infantry squad that isn't a terminator unit.

true a 10 man assault/ destroyer kit would be better.

 

also i know its silly but id love a heresy era Indomni terminator kit, no cruxes lots of power weapon options etc.

 

 

5 man kits for more non core choices would be easier on the wallet technically, look at the heresy tax on the current ten man boxes. Termi's at 5 man plastic are always expensive, because that sized model is always much more in general as far as GW is concerned. 5 man boxes could also have more extra bits/ kit fitted in than a ten man box. You would never get as many extra's in a ten man destroyer squad, compared to the plastic dev squad for instance. You could fit every option/ loadout into a five man box compared to a ten man box. Would then be able to start axing a lot of the resin weapon upgrade packs in FW store too if the 5 man boxes have them instead. Shrinking/ consolidating by having less separate products codes is good for inventory management, production etc.  

Edited June 18, 2020 by MegaVolt87

[Mogsam]

They'd be much better off making upgrade kits for the mark iv/iii kits.

 

10 shields and the arms for breachers. Make them compatible with the normal marine arms and its even easier.

 

10 bolt pistols and chainswords with relevant non-bolter arms for despoilers/destroyers. Mix them together with 10 assault jump packs for assault marines/destroyers.

 

That's 2 kits that encourage more Mark iv/iii plastic kit purchases (easier to mass produce) and reduces about 5/6 resin kits. It also drastically reduces the costs of 10 man specialist units, which desincentives people from buying knock offs.

 

The minute they release 5 plastic models, they'll inevitably be £30 and barely offer a discount. (fabius bile is £25 alone apparently).

[Cadmus Tyro]

I think, an upgrade kit would be worthwhile for breachers. The Mkiii kit lends itself well to this, all you would need are the shields/arms and a grav gun/breacher charge option. Perhaps head upgrades and the odd meltabomb.

 

The issue with MKiv upgrade as suggested is the static nature of the legs. I have never liked plastic Mkiv legs, to the point that almost everyone I own is converted and repositioned. So, to get a dynamic MKiv assault squad based on the current kit would be difficult.

 

£30 for five marines is a current saving on FW prices, and there are a lot of retailers who offer at least a 20% discount on plastic GW stuff offering a potential further saving.

 

If (this is a big if) there is ever another plastic HH release, it would probably accompany some form of starter set (which is sorely needed IMHO) and that may offer even more of a potential discount.

 

I’ve been waiting a while for some realistic HH support from FW, from a rules perspective, so I’ve lost any hope of seeing a starter set. I mean, an up to date FAQ would be a nice starting point.....

 

Cadmus