The Pounder Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 OK, I've been asked by my brother if I would paint an army for him. He saw the Templars I did a while ago and wants me to do something similar for him! It'll be a purely Primaris project to start, I think has the intention of adding sisters of battle (he just loves the medieval religious look of both ranges!) I've done a test model and was hoping for some feedback: Templar Templar Templar Templar Templar As I said, he loves the idea of building a Crusade, with different elements of the Imperium ranges. Some of you may of noticed that he's used both Black Templar and Impeerial Fist iconography. That is intentional his main Inspiration was the Templar Brethren from the Horus Heresy range and he wants to bring that imagery up to present day 40k. He's going to write up some back story for them, I'll post it once it's done. All I know ATM is they're called "The Templars of Dorn" Thanks for looking, I'll update as and when I finish stuff!! Bjorn Firewalker, andes, havlar and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The Aggressor looks great, but you've yet to distinguish him from a Black Templar, meaning a casual viewer will likely mistake him for a Black Templar instead of a Marine from your IA Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5539254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Hmmmm, you’re right.  What if I switched out the Ivory on the shoulder pads with yellow?  Go directly for the Templar Brethren scheme? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5539269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The black Maltese cross (known in M40 as a "crusader cross") automatically makes me think, "Black Templar." You can keep this model as-is, for an allied detachment from a Black Templars army; to avoid being mistaken for Black Templars, your own IA Chapter should NOT use black armor with a crusader cross (Templars Marshals will adopt non-black colored crosses as part of their personal heraldry, if modelers on the Black Templars board are any indication). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5539282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 I spoke with my brother and I think I’ll just paint all iconography gold.  It’s basically Black Templars but he can live with that.  Thanks for the advice Bjorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5539537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 So the first one was too Black Templars for an Imperial Fist Successor. I had a play about with the colour scheme to make them look a bit more unique. Here's the results: Templar Templar Templar Templar What do you guys think? Logiter and Bjorn Firewalker 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5539998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Looks great! The golden fist in a black circle looks good as a Chapter symbol. White legs may help differentiate the Marine from a Black Templar; ask for second, third, and more opinions to see if it works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5540013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 I've finished the army leader for the Templars of Dorn! He'll be the Grande Master. I used the Tor Garadon model as a base for the kitbash. Plus a Templar Brethren head to add a little more flavour. The aim is still to make every man a hero, with his own added details. Templar Templar Templar Templar Thanks for looking! Bjorn Firewalker and Medjugorje 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5541297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 still look like a Black Templar^^ (what is not bad)  Maybe you should take another color then black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5541301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 Thanks for the reply.  Though I’m happy with how these guys look.  I feel they’re as different as I want them to be.  The black armour was the reason for the project, it’s like saying Black Templars are too much alike to Death Watch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5541774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Excellent work. The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5542046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Change the shoulder pad to yellow with a burnished silver trim, keep the fist insignia the same. Yellow kneepad with a crussade badge in black, then you would look way diffrent. Also purple/ blue cloaks would make you stand apart further from BT and still look good. The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5547353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I really like the Tor Garadon kitbash! Beautifully painted. Â I will echo what others have said about the BT similarity aha, maybe if the white detail was bone coloured instead? Would lend them a sinister edge, maybe they are more radical in their crusades than the BT and accept the use of pyskers and even xenos weaponry? Could lead to some fun conversions (I hear Necron warscythes look good...!). The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5550127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks very much MegaVolt87 and Brother Kraskor!  I really appreciate the advice but I’m going to run with the colour scheme as is.  I think with the red fists and cream legs there’s enough of a difference. Brother Kraskor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5554299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmarius Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Well, this is awkward.https://templarsofdorn.blogspot.com/http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364445-ia-templars-of-dorn/ Edited July 24, 2020 by Sigmarius The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5569321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 One of the fun things about DIYs is that no one else's matters. We've had many instances where members have used the same name for their DIYs, with plenty of Iron Dragons, Spartans, etc. My DIY is the Nova Hawks, which is a name that another hobbyist also used for their DIY. Â Imagine that there is a single nebulous canon universe. Each DIY is in its own parallel universe. Â Besides, there is official lore for similar duplication of Chapter names. There is an example of two Chapters having the exact same name and livery, the duplication discovered only when both were present at the same battle. Â If you like the Templars of Dorn name and want to keep it, don't worry about any other DIYs that use the same name. havlar and The Pounder 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5569633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Haha!!! Not awkward at all.  Was bound to happen! I was amazed when my brother chose the name that it hadn’t been taken already!!  His idea for the Successor was to draw on the Templar Brethren from the HH series, thus using the Fist Iconography and Maltese cross. He wanted them to be a Crusading Chapter (because it’s cool!) so we ran with it.  Should have some more Primaris to update this thread soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5569657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've finally had a chance to work on the Templars of Dorn!  My brother has sourced a lot of parts to add a little more character to each model (after all every Marine is a hero in his own right!)  He's working on some fluff for the Chapter now, I'll post when he's done.  This is the first squad of Intercessors:  Templars of Dorn  Templars of Dorn  Templars of Dorn  Templars of Dorn  Templars of Dorn  Thanks for looking! Bjorn Firewalker and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5592943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 They're looking great and I love your twist on some familiar colour schemes. It actually has me thinking waaaay back to an old White Dwarf with a chapter called... the White Panthers, I think? I remember really liking the look! I think these guys look distinct enough from all their influences that you have achieved what you wanted; recognisable heritage for the force that simply pays homage to the most iconic Dornian chapters. I look forward to seeing them grow! :) The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5593583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Fine work on the models. The nasal bar is a good addition to the helmet, making the Marine look literally medieval. The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5593798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 Marshal Mattias, thanks very much! That’s exactly what we were trying to achieve.  Something a bit different but taking cues from a number of Dornian Chapters (hence the red fists and black power armour!)   Bjorn Firewalker, cheers, glad you liked it, I don’t know where the head was from but thought it looked cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5594386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Had a productive weekend! I've managed to finish the High Marshal (Chapter Master) for the Templars of Dorn.  He's based on the Primaris Marneus Calgar plus some other bitz and bobs.  I really enjoyed the modelling on this one. There's something to be said for kitbashing! It's a lot of fun.  High Marshal  High Marshal  High Marshal  High Marshal  High Marshal  Thanks for looking. Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5596798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Great job on the High Marshal! Will your IA Chapter fight with Black Templars Chapter tactics- no psykers, no scouts- with Imperial Fists Chapter tactics, with a mix of Imperial Fists successors' Chapter tactics (including those of the Crimson Fists), or will you create your own? The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5596803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Thanks Bjorn Firewalker!  Haven’t fully decided on which rules they’ll use yet.  My brother is still working on the background for the Chapter.  So hopefully the fluff will decide the army rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5597350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 I've finished the first squad of Aggressors for the Templars of Dorn!  My brother chose to go with Grey Knight heads to go with the Crusader look.  I believe it makes them look a little bit more sinister.  Here's the pics:   Aggressors  Aggressors  Aggressors  Aggressors Bjorn Firewalker and andes 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364460-the-templars-of-dorn-an-if-primaris-successor-chapter/#findComment-5603709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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