MasterDeath Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Next week Fabius Bile and his creations appear on the scene. One thing I wonder is: Is the Trait Fabius confers to his army instead of a Legion Trait or in addition to the Legion trait? If the later, that could be an interesting way to distinguish Chaos from Loyalist Marines. Chaos Marines could get a Legion Trait as now, but the whole Army (the Hereticus Astartes at least) gets a Cult trait dependent what model is used as a Warlord. Some Chaos Lord could confer advantages in CP generation or flanking, others in melee. Apostles for morale and for the cultists Sorcerors for magic and summoning Warpsmiths for shooting and vehicles So two armies from the same legion could vary quiet a bit with different Warlords and their cult traits. What do you think? (either on the idea or if the Fabius trait is in addition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 So far I assumed that Fabius' trait will be used to replace the <Legion> keyword like all our legion and renegade traits. Can't see it going any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) It was stated in the WarCom article that it's a Legion keyword. Edited June 13, 2020 by Iron Father Ferrum Sonoftherubric21 and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Did you think for a second you were playing loyalist and getting an army wide legion trait, a mono bonus with free -ap and then a second legion trait? No sir, you play chaos. You get a poopy trait that only applies to infantry, bikes and brutes and you'll like it! Hahaha. Edited June 14, 2020 by Putrid Choir MasterDeath, Bulwyf, AceofCase and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 Thanks for that, I needed my daily dose of despair. :D Special Officer Doofy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 A couple strats here and there, some relics you'll never use, and a couple other options for warlord traits should do the trick... Tada! Just as good as a new codex with new rules and free bonsues! Right? Maybe? No... At this point it's just comical. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 To be fair, that is a *REALLY* nice legion trait for us as a codex, and Fabius himself is a plug+play character for any Chaos Space Marine list as he doesn't disrupt other legion traits if you just wanted his buffs (T5 on demand is very nice for multiple units) It favors our book and our playstyle (up close) and is a solid option for people sick of Alphas. Obviously the big choices are Possessed, Princes, and other big gribblies. Could *potentially* make a blob of other marines viable as well in the right circumstances. We don't know what his other strats are but the 2 they showed off are great so its a decent little start. Eagerly awaiting the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Herald Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I'm hoping we will be able to have units with the god keywords in the army. We would need to be able to for Daemon princes (I despise that fluff change they pulled), but I'd really like to see enhanved Berzerkers with the trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazar The Glorified Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I'm surprised that we don't have any army rules for picking armies on the god keywords yet to be honest. It's one of the best bits in AoS that the chaos armies have a few different ways to run them. Trading in your Slaves to Darkness army wide rules for the Slaanesh ones if you want etc. It's the one thing that I've found disappointing about 8th and now 9th approaches to detachments, that they penalise you for running chaos armies in the way they're depicted in the background - a ragtag assortment of smaller warbands working together (probably briefly) and comprising Traitor Guard, Cultists, Heretic Astartes of various warbands, Daemons and Chaos Knights etc. Khorne Daemonkin looked like that was the direction we were going but that's been abandoned in between in 40k but realised to perfection in AoS since. Hoping 9th sees them re-explore this in 40k Edited June 16, 2020 by Elazar The Glorified Special Officer Doofy and RolandTHTG 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Nevermind, its a wonky worded legion trait. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Oh dear, they changed how Fabius´ improvement works. Old version: Unit in 1", now: Unit completely in 6". That can make things difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Oh dear, they changed how Fabius´ improvement works. Old version: Unit in 1", now: Unit completely in 6". That can make things difficult. Right. They must be banking on people going MSU because of blast weapons. It's easy to fit 5 marines in a 6" bubble. 20, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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