Brother Kraskor Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 One is forced to wonder, though, if it degrades the integrity of the armour's sealing properties (void combat, toxins, radiation, etc.). Of course, I suppose none of those helmetless battle-brothers care for those things either. What is it about helmetless marines? The Emperor improved on the Thunder Warrior open air design for a reason! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5548235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 the most important thing to me for now is the rules. Like I already said in the 9th edition room I fear something which makes our CT irrelevant and each other chapter would be better with them but on the other hand I hope there will be something that fit perfectly like reroll wounds or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5548240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I don't mind these tabards, they look far better than the spellcrow ones just hang from two points at the waist. At least these look like they're attached to something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5548309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It annoys me that the leaked unit profile doesn't mention anything about being able to take more than 3 models in the unit. Given how Elite slots will be crowded with the new detachment costs (at least my lists tend to often end up quite Elite-heavy), it's really gonna suck trying to justify a slot for just three of them because they're not going to be particularly impactful. Like, I'm contemplating getting two of the Indomitus box, but the Bladeguard is gonna be a lot less interesting if it's only three models max - in addition to taking up the slot, any stratagems used on the unit become less useful due to its small size. And kinda makes the Bladeguard Ancient seem like a joke - the PL is the same as the Bladeguard unit itself, so assuming points costs are also even roughly similar, why would you ever take the Ancient instead of another squad of the Veterans? Although this is already a problem with many other banner units in various armies, so nothing new in that sense, but the second aura of this Ancient only even affects Bladeguard untis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5556711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It depends what happens to them I guess - will they get the Suppressors treatment (no box, stay limited to 3) or the Aggressor/Inceptor treatment (multipart box, 3-6). I would guess they will prove popular enough for GW to want to capitalise on their profit by making a kit, but who knows! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5556719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The box datasheets are always very limited to the contents. The codex usually has more information. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5556727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) I hope they have a multipart kit with great swords, or other option than sword and shield. I don't like shields :P Edited July 7, 2020 by Sete SydonianDragoon404 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5556772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 maybe they wait with that squad unitl a Black Templar Supplement / Dark Angels / Blood Angels Codex will be released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5556915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Bladeguard (i.e., Sword Brethren with Shields) strike me as a Primaris update to the OG Imperial Fists Legion Templar Brethren (in addition to a number of other Great Crusade era units for various Legions), but with not enough Maltese crosses or laurels (or chains). Still, it would be nice if we see the unit options eventually expanded so that we can see a bit more diversity, allowing players of the Black Templars Chapter (and other Chapters) to create more varied thematic models like this guy. Mmmmm Napalm and templargdt 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think GW will drive that road but not yet. If marines have enough (everything which already exist by firstborn units then ohter chapters will have their attention). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Will BT BladeGuards get the Sword Brother key word? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Will BT BladeGuards get the Sword Brother key word? I hope they eventually do because they're pretty much a straight up update of our old Sword Brethren, all they are missing is the Chapter iconography. Right now they cant be given the <Sword Brethren> keyword because they dont have the <Company Veteran> keyword that makes them eligible for the Vigilus detachment but I honestly hope GW throws us a bone somehow and puts a small paragraph like "Bladeguard units in Black Templar detachemnts gain the Sword Brethren keyword". lordhellblade and Sete 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 My source says that there is a mutlipart kit in the works for them, but not sure if they will be available in units bigger than 3. Bikes eventually will I know that much, but not sure about Bladeguard Will BT BladeGuards get the Sword Brother key word? Seriously doubt it, honestly. Sete and redmapa 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 My source says that there is a mutlipart kit in the works for them, but not sure if they will be available in units bigger than 3. Bikes eventually will I know that much, but not sure about Bladeguard Will BT BladeGuards get the Sword Brother key word? Seriously doubt it, honestly. Good news on the multipart kit, can your source confirm the existence of Greatswords if possible :) Maybe a strat for Sword Bros like Vigilus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Unknown unfortunately Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) My source says that there is a mutlipart kit in the works for them, but not sure if they will be available in units bigger than 3. Bikes eventually will I know that much, but not sure about Bladeguard I cannot describe the depth of my shock if this hadn't been the case. As for how many that will be able to be in the unit in the future, its 50-50 for now I guess, based on how it's been for other units. Edited July 7, 2020 by Reinhard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The Sword Brethren keyword got reused in Faith and Fury for something, so they haven't forgotten it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The Sword Brethren keyword got reused in Faith and Fury for something, so they haven't forgotten it. I cant find that. Can you tell me where I can find it ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Yeah, reread the crusader relics stratagem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Although, that isn't actually a keyword. It's a unit with sword brother in the profile... Are there any units with that name still? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The box datasheets are always very limited to the contents. The codex usually has more information. Thing is, unless they FAQ in the entire unit profiles, it's not like we're getting a new Codex any time soon. We bloody well better not be, the old one hasn't even been out for a year, never mind the IF supplement! There's only so much greed they can get away with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I would get ready for a new Codex Space Marines... Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It's coming like a freight train. We are already so many datasheets behind.- Bladeguard Ancient - Bladeguard Vets - Judiciar - New Lieutenant armament - New Captain options - Outriders - Mario Kart thing - Primaris Chaplain on bike - Primaris Techmarine - Leaked Landspeeder thing - Leaked tank with twin onslaught cannons - Hammerfall Turret - The autocannon/last talon turret. You really think they're going to let that many SM units run around without a codex? Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Although, that isn't actually a keyword. It's a unit with sword brother in the profile... Are there any units with that name still? I'm an idiot. It's the profile name for the squad leader in the Crusader Squad. ignore me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It's coming like a freight train. We are already so many datasheets behind. - Bladeguard Ancient - Bladeguard Vets - Judiciar - New Lieutenant armament - New Captain options - Outriders - Mario Kart thing - Primaris Chaplain on bike - Primaris Techmarine - Leaked Landspeeder thing - Leaked tank with twin onslaught cannons - Hammerfall Turret - The autocannon/last talon turret. You really think they're going to let that many SM units run around without a codex? Medjugorje and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364702-bladeguard-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5557273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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