Boyadventurer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 At least with the bikes, if you're not in RF range, its usually worthwhile to just use bolter discipline on them anyway. Though, being fast and all, you can probably get them into RF range easy enough. IIRC I think the Dark Imperium release day PDF didn't give SIA to the Intercessors either. So I wouldn't feel too gloomy about it just yet.Now hmmm, how to convert the Judiciar into some sort of super Black shield... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5569024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Which means none of them have special issue ammo good to know Wouldn't the Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard have it since heavy bolt pistols are already included on the list thanks to Reivers? Primaris Chaplains with absolvor bost pistols are included too The only thing is to see how they will deal with the twin rifles on bikes ubt it will need a simple FAQ with the point cost for the SiA on the Outriders Now we only have to deal with the not separate shoulder pads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5569042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyadventurer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 The Chaplain is fine since there's no difference between this guy and the one already in our codex, so just use the datasheet in our codex. But like Mobius said before, SIA is a datasheet-specific ability, it doesn't matter if you have a weapon that can shoot it, you need the SIA ability on your specific datasheet, which none of these units do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5569080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSauce Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Don't forget that we pay a couple of extra points per bolter for SIA, so not including it isn't necessarily a bad thing if the cost is the same as Codex SM - at least for now. If they don't give SIA and increase the point cost for painting the shoulder pads silver + color of my choosing then I'll be mad. I'm especially thinking about the 6 attacks on those primaris bikers on the charge - you don't need SIA to grind up xenos with those fancy new chainswords! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5569089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Which means none of them have special issue ammo good to know Wouldn't the Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard have it since heavy bolt pistols are already included on the list thanks to Reivers? Primaris Chaplains with absolvor bost pistols are included tooThe only thing is to see how they will deal with the twin rifles on bikes ubt it will need a simple FAQ with the point cost for the SiA on the Outriders Now we only have to deal with the not separate shoulder pads Well, like the other poster mentioned, Special Issue Ammunition is actually a datasheet ability, not a blanket rule. Without that being added, none of the Indomitus units will be able to use SIA. Sorry if I confused you, what I shared was misinformation :( I see lots of interest in the Lt, but I think the ancient being added to DW is pretty neat as well. Syward and quasistellar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5569121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Which means none of them have special issue ammo good to know Wouldn't the Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard have it since heavy bolt pistols are already included on the list thanks to Reivers? Primaris Chaplains with absolvor bost pistols are included tooThe only thing is to see how they will deal with the twin rifles on bikes ubt it will need a simple FAQ with the point cost for the SiA on the Outriders Now we only have to deal with the not separate shoulder pads I opened my box today and his left shoulder pad is not attached. So using a Deathwatch pad is easy. I haven’t inspected all the others but that was my main concern, now appeased. Duke Danse Macabre and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5571022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Which means none of them have special issue ammo good to know Wouldn't the Assault Intercessors and Bladeguard have it since heavy bolt pistols are already included on the list thanks to Reivers?Primaris Chaplains with absolvor bost pistols are included tooThe only thing is to see how they will deal with the twin rifles on bikes ubt it will need a simple FAQ with the point cost for the SiA on the Outriders Now we only have to deal with the not separate shoulder pads I opened my box today and his left shoulder pad is not attached. So using a Deathwatch pad is easy. I haven’t inspected all the others but that was my main concern, now appeased. I used Greenstuff and Plastic glue to attach the pad to my Chaplain: The Chaplain is honestly the outright easiest of all of them to put a new left shoulder pad on. All the other ones are much more difficult, but hey. It's plastic. Edited July 26, 2020 by Gederas Syward and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5571315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Awesome job. I have to be honest I clipped one shoulder pad off one of the Idomitus figs and it took a long time. lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Awesome job. I have to be honest I clipped one shoulder pad off one of the Idomitus figs and it took a long time. lol Thanks. And trust me, I know. I did it to EVERY Primaris model from Indomitus.... It took a good six hours Paulinus and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Wow. Okay, that makes sense. So it's not just me, this is a grueling time based change to all the models. Some shoulder pads I noted were different in shape even. Like the Assault Intercessors. I wasn't sure if GW would issue new pads or not for this design change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syward Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Wow. Okay, that makes sense. So it's not just me, this is a grueling time based change to all the models. Some shoulder pads I noted were different in shape even. Like the Assault Intercessors. I wasn't sure if GW would issue new pads or not for this design change. Has anyone tried these? Seems like it may make converting to DW much easier. https://www.shapeways.com/product/3D6C9KZEF/60x-xenos-hunters-shoulder-insignia-pack?optionId=65526225&li=marketplace Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) The Chaplain is fine since there's no difference between this guy and the one already in our codex, so just use the datasheet in our codex. But like Mobius said before, SIA is a datasheet-specific ability, it doesn't matter if you have a weapon that can shoot it, you need the SIA ability on your specific datasheet, which none of these units do. There is differences between the chaplains the codex one has a 16 inch pistol while the new version has 18 inch. Edited July 27, 2020 by Stargate_wars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-Gon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Wow. Okay, that makes sense. So it's not just me, this is a grueling time based change to all the models. Some shoulder pads I noted were different in shape even. Like the Assault Intercessors. I wasn't sure if GW would issue new pads or not for this design change. Has anyone tried these? Seems like it may make converting to DW much easier. https://www.shapeways.com/product/3D6C9KZEF/60x-xenos-hunters-shoulder-insignia-pack?optionId=65526225&li=marketplace Part of the fun is having the beautiful lettering on the shoulder pad. To get those you need to spend a bit of time cutting, greenstuffing and supergluing. Duke Danse Macabre 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Wow. Okay, that makes sense. So it's not just me, this is a grueling time based change to all the models. Some shoulder pads I noted were different in shape even. Like the Assault Intercessors. I wasn't sure if GW would issue new pads or not for this design change. Has anyone tried these? Seems like it may make converting to DW much easier. https://www.shapeways.com/product/3D6C9KZEF/60x-xenos-hunters-shoulder-insignia-pack?optionId=65526225&li=marketplace I bought a set a while ago when I was doing some assault terminator conversations back to regular terminators. They fit on the shoulder pad. When I get my box in this week, I can post a picture if you'd like. It's not as good looking as the upgrade or veteran shoulder pads, but its also a whole lot less work. Prot and Syward 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5572767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasistellar Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Man, I'm so torn on what to do with these Indomitus space marines! I've got Iron Hands and Deathwatch. I've already got a Chaplain for my IH so the new guy goes to DW for sure (though I may swap that and repaint the old chaplain since the new one is much more "iron hands" looking IMO). DW really needs some more anti-tank so I'm thinking Eradicators to DW. Assault Intercessors--gonna sit on those until I see how they fit into kill teams. Bladeguard--honestly no idea, since without Impulsor we'd have to put them into the Teleportarium or just foot slog them, but they'd look LEGIT with DW shoulders. Judiciar--again no idea since we lack a good delivery system for him, but he doesn't fit my Iron Hands that well either. Outriders--could easily go into both armies, but will have to see if they get SIA or if they fit into kill teams. Lieutenant--I'm gonna paint him up for DW, as the reroll 1's just seems too good to pass up. Bladeguard Ancient--hmm depends on where my bladeguard go, lol! And last, the captain--Probably gonna make him DW since I've got the standard Gravis captain, Primaris captain, Phobos captain, and plasma/powerfist captain as IH already, and only a standard Primaris captain for DW. I guess what I'm getting at is that I'll mostly be painting Necrons until the DW supplement comes out :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daynga-Zone Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I’ve got basically the same dilemma as you in deciding between my successor chapter and DW. One thing I’ve thought of that’s a relatively easy conversion is using extras from the veteran kit to turn assault intercessors into Bladeguard. There’s an abundance of powerswords. Not quite enough shields ever though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) Just got mine today and I have to say......these are an absolute Pleasure to assemble. Almost no mold lines, arms can easily be posed, and thus have the shoulderpads chopped off. Actual tight seals for the push to fit parts. Only had to glue one part on the assault guys so far. Arms are gonna be a pain if you want to take the shoulders off in advance like I did...... The plasma pistol arms seem perfect for converting to another weapon option since it has a perfect place to cut the wrist as well as is a mechanical arm. Definitely poppin that in the bitz box. Edited July 30, 2020 by leth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikev Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Indomitus datasheets are on the app. - Instead of adding them to the relevant faction, they are all crammed into the same category with different Chapter names under Edge of Silence: Space Marines (Blood Angels Assault Intercessor, Deathwatch Assault Intercessor, etc). - Nobody from the new units has Special Issue Ammunition on their datasheet. BA, DA and SW don't appear to have any faction specific rules either. The datasheets are basically clones of each other but listed separately. What??? - Regular Deathwatch Intercessors can still add a unit called 6" to a Kill Team. Apparently the datasheets were meant to be cleaned up for errors.... The dodgy app train keeps on rolling. Duke Danse Macabre 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 The moment I heard that the search function doesn't work out of order(Intercessors Deathwatch doesn't work) I knew it was someone sticking together assets to make the app with little knowledge or simple effort to tailor it to the 40K Game. Stop going with the cheapest bid when it comes to IT, it isn't worth it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 So it only took 4 hours, but I got my 10 assault intercessors to have all my 3d printed parts and together....... worth it! I am seriously considering running them to help fill out the core slots. I a, gonna be honest and say a lot of what the kill teams brought to the table, just isn’t there anymore(which was ablative wounds). definitely feeling the specialist units more now. Can see things like bikes, terminators, etc as stand alone units having some value. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5574587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Hoping to have one of them fully painted today so you can see a more completed shoulder picture. Here's how simple it is to add the icon to the shoulder pad. Hidden Content Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5575364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 My thumb is going to be scared from purging all the shoulder pads! may i reccomend cut resistant gloves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5575512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 How am i supposed to give khorne his due with cut resistant gloves? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5575782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Spread the offering to the Blood God onto some clear acrylic bases and use them as flesh wound trackers in kill team. He'll appreciate your donation and your creativity. Edited August 4, 2020 by Lemondish Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364954-deathwatch-getting-everything-in-the-new-boxset/page/3/#findComment-5577939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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