Dedicated codex or codex supplement - which would be better?

[Sete]

There are whispers in the wind that say DA, BA and SW Codex wont take long to drop.

I reckon that we might see a release schedule like we saw last year for Codex supplements.

We know DW is coming.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

I wouldn't be surprised now if we saw those four go to supplements as well...

[Sete]

I wouldn't be surprised now if we saw those four go to supplements as well...

Imagine the :cussstorm.

But it would make sense.

They are all under the SM tab on the store...

Edited July 7, 2020 by Sete

[SydonianDragoon404]

I finally seem to agree with Sete on something, I also hope they go the route of the Stormcast Liberators/Sequitors where you can take either Sword & Board or a guy with a big two handed sword. 

[Sword Brother Adelard]

 

I wouldn't be surprised now if we saw those four go to supplements as well...

Imagine the :cussstorm.

But it would make sense.

They are all under the SM tab on the store...

But then those players complain about the fact they always have to wait behind the codex SM queue for the new datasheets. One, all chapter, SM codex would be far easier to manage, then add flavour with supplements. It's the main reason I don't want a codex for us, just a supplement, otherwise if we did have one we'd be even later down the waiting list than BA, DA, DW and SW.

[Sete]

I'm a very agreable person ;)

 

Edit: we are so far down the waiting list we are still waiting for half the rules of faith and fury xD

Edited July 7, 2020 by Sete

[Sword Brother Adelard]

Sorry if that came across as disagreeing with you. I wasn't, I was just expanding on the irony of those players cussstorming about losing a codex as much as they do for having one!

[Sete]

Sorry if that came across as disagreeing with you. I wasn't, I was just expanding on the irony of those players cussstorming about losing a codex as much as they do for having one!

The first part was meant to dragoon.

 

And I agree with you on your topic.

It would be mental lol. I would like to see it. xD

[Sword Brother Adelard]

Me too. We could sit there all smug on the sidelines with our popcorn and little signs saying: "how do you like it!?"

[Brother Tyler]

Note that I split this from the Bladeguard in Black Templars discussion that it was a tangent of. It's a relevant topic of discussion (which is also taking place in other forums from the perspective of those Chapters), so it deserves attention.

[Sete]

Cheers for the separate thread!

I think we will know the answer when DW hits, they are also under the marine tab on the site.

 

If we take Gee Dubs comment at face value that they do not want to do chapter specific units, it would make sense to release supplements for BA, DA and SW.

 

If we look at the outriders, they do get the ravenwing keyword on DA armies, and blade guard will have the wolf guard keyword.

 

Will a ravenwing kit be released?

Or wolfguard?

Its bikes and veterans in the end of the day.

 

In regards to BT, a supplement would be more than enough.

But not an half assed thing like faith and fury.

 

A proper one like every codex with a CT on the codex SM had.

 

One thing that I wonder, if they do Helbrecth and Grim, will their tabards be under the chest aswell?

Edited July 7, 2020 by Sete

[JimVandy85]

In all reality, it would be sooooo much simpler if space marines had a main codex then supplements for the individual chapters including BA, DA, and SW.

[Brother Kraskor]

In all reality, it would be sooooo much simpler if space marines had a main codex then supplements for the individual chapters including BA, DA, and SW.

 

Yeah from a topology perspective this would be neater.

 

Would prevent unintentional disparities too.

[Medjugorje]

GW already confirmed a new BA Codex. So they never said this if they want to release a supllement.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

GW already confirmed a new BA Codex. So they never said this if they want to release a supllement.

 

Where? They haven't even 'confirmed' a new SM codex.

[Medjugorje]

 

GW already confirmed a new BA Codex. So they never said this if they want to release a supllement.

 

Where? They haven't even 'confirmed' a new SM codex.

 

they said it in a stream. It was said that they will release new codicies for each faction - and then a Blood Angels Codex will come and some stratagems, relics from the PA-books will be remain in the new codex, some not. 

Thats why I had so much hopes in a Black Templars Codex.

[Punchomatic]

I’d be shocked to the extreme if we get a codex. It’s clear that GW (now) considers us a codex chapter that worships the emperor and has one goofy unit (crusader squads) and that’s the end of their thoughts about us.

 

Given that I don’t see how we get much of anything.

 

That being said I would rather have a full codex. More rules more fluff more better!

[Hymnblade]

As a collector, I'd rather have a full codex. I still refer to my 4e codex sometimes.

 

As a player, I'd rather have a supplement. Having your own codex is great until you're left in update limbo a year or two down the line. Rules-wise, a supplement seems to be the best of both worlds: you get access to the full codex and you're update when the main faction is, but you also get your own stuff to boot.

[Medjugorje]

In the moment the acutal codicies will be updated very fast. So I would say that actuality is not a big facter.

 

As a player I want to have my own codex because the style is important. So we are just one of many and in this case not the important melee chapter - since the white scars are clearly better. playstyle comes with identity.

 

As a collector maybe we get a bit more own models but not that much at the moment ( look to the space wolves - they really not looking like the space vikings they used to be).

[BitsHammer]

At this point getting Marines down to two codexes (Grey Knights and Space Marines) with supplements for all the major chapters (BT included) would clean the game up quite a bit and make it so they wouldn't need to FAQ every Marine book everytime something new comes out.

 

It's not like they can't do the occasional supplement update to add more stuff in the future as well, and the books can still restrict a number of things that don't belong in the army as well.

 

Basically I think we're at the point where most factions could use supplements as a way of majorly expanding each major subfaction beyond the covers of a more frequently shared codex.

[SirJyo]

I'll settle for a full supplement, hardback if possible

 

Edit, how low my expectations are

Edited July 8, 2020 by SirJyo

[Ishagu]

If they went a Primaris only route then you could have all Astartes in one codex with supplements for each chapter.

[Ishagu]

No codex primaris this time.

Info from across the channel.

Are there some juicy rumours I'm not aware of? I used to converse with people who might be in the know a while back but I no longer get involved in stuff like this.

[Sete]

Its from the dudes that correctly predicted the supplements and PA releases.

Its been a low season for rumours especially after all the heat they got, but they did mention this one.

Edited July 8, 2020 by Sete

[Marshal Reinhard]

Figured a Primaris only codex was still "too soon", we're only on the cusp of the second edition since their introduction.

 

But with the rate they've added units, I get the feeling we'll end up there much sooner than the remaining classic marine units all ending up as legends (which would make the regular c:sm primaris only.)

 

Maybe next edition there'll be one? The marine codex is getting beyond unwieldy.