2000 point list for 9th edition C&C welcome

[HallofStovokor]

Disregard the end price as it totals 2000 points exactly.

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

 

+ HQ +

 

Company Commander: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Company Commander: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Lord Castellan Creed: Warlord, WT (Cadia): Superior Tactical Training

 

+ Troops +

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

+ Elites +

 

Astropath: Nightshroud, Telepathica Stave

 

Astropath: Psychic Barrier, Telepathica Stave

 

Astropath: Psychic Maelstrom, Telepathica Stave

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Basilisks

Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

 

Basilisks

Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

 

+ HQ +

 

Tank Commander: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Lascannon, Storm Bolter

 

Tank Commander: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

 

Tank Commander: Heavy Bolters, Lascannon, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

 

+ Troops +

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

6x Guardsman: 6x Lasgun

Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Sniper rifle

Heavy Weapon Team: Lascannon

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun

Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

+ Elites +

 

Platoon Commander: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Heavy Weapons Squad

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

 

Heavy Weapons Squad

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

 

Heavy Weapons Squad

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

 

++ Total: [108 PL, 2CP, 1,706pts] ++

 

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[domsto]

Why waste so many CP on a second Detachment?

Wouldn it be better to put it together in a Brigade?

[HallofStovokor]

Why waste so many CP on a second Detachment?

Wouldn it be better to put it together in a Brigade?

Not enough HQs and I don't want to pay for fast attacks. The Hellhound is the only viable fast attack option and that would cut into how many troops or tank commanders I could take. Also, Creed pays for 2 of the 3 CP I need to spend on the second battalion. I do agree that it isn't ideal to give up CP to build the list I want, but GW decided that Guard needed nerfs. Edited July 20, 2020 by HallofStovokor

[domsto]

Not enough HQs and I don't want to pay for fast attacks. The Hellhound is the only viable fast attack option and that would cut into how many troops or tank commanders I could take. Also, Creed pays for 2 of the 3 CP I need to spend on the second battalion. I do agree that it isn't ideal to give up CP to build the list I want, but GW decided that Guard needed nerfs.

Yeah i am no big fan of this new very restrict Armybuling either...

 

For Fast Attack

Maybe Sentinals

They are still only 35p each with ML

Edited July 20, 2020 by domsto

[GuardDaddy]

yeah its 105pts for minimum FA slot to be filled v 3 CP. Thats the trade off.

 

List looks good and 3 Tank Commanders and 3 Basilisks powerful core. Both of those are best value Tank and Artillery respectively I feel (Russ and Wyvern pts upgrades were harsh)

 

Considered Tallarn? dropping Creed and some grenade launchers would pretty much get you the 105pts for FA.

 

In terms of tweaks to consider - dropping grenade launchers gets you pts to upgrade the infantry lascannon squad to veterans for the BS3+ on it?

 

And great job on getting a 9th edition list out there!

Edited July 20, 2020 by GuardDaddy

[HallofStovokor]

yeah its 105pts for minimum FA slot to be filled v 3 CP. Thats the trade off.

 

List looks good and 3 Tank Commanders and 3 Basilisks powerful core. Both of those are best value Tank and Artillery respectively I feel (Russ and Wyvern pts upgrades were harsh)

 

Considered Tallarn? dropping Creed and some grenade launchers would pretty much get you the 105pts for FA.

 

In terms of tweaks to consider - dropping grenade launchers gets you pts to upgrade the infantry lascannon squad to veterans for the BS3+ on it?

 

And great job on getting a 9th edition list out there!

Yeah the grenade launchers going up hurts. I actually prefer cadian doctrine and Creed is pretty much an auto-include now that CP is scarce. He's actually a great value now. He's got as many orders as a CC and PC combined and costs exactly as much as those two. He also gives 2 CP. Going veterans for the lascannon might work. Remember though that rerolling Cadians do as well as veterans from any other regiment.

[Captain Caine 24th]

I agree Creed is a very good idea. He fits well with going with the mortar teams as your heavy choices. 

 

I hear rumblings that manticores are better than basilisks with specialist detachments being eliminated from the grand tournament package. I don't know really, I think the basilisks are still pointed well. 

 

I'm thinking the three astropaths will be good for getting secondary objectives - psychic ritual? 

[HallofStovokor]

I agree Creed is a very good idea. He fits well with going with the mortar teams as your heavy choices.

 

I hear rumblings that manticores are better than basilisks with specialist detachments being eliminated from the grand tournament package. I don't know really, I think the basilisks are still pointed well.

 

I'm thinking the three astropaths will be good for getting secondary objectives - psychic ritual?

Manticores are very strong now, but the basilisk is still cheaper. I personally prefer the aesthetics of basilisks over manticores, but the loss of vigilus does hurt.

[GuardDaddy]

Astropaths also deny as well as anything, good value still at 25 pts. As well as the pychic secondaries.