Volt Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 In some cases I don't think they really need it. I tried out a game against a friend on TTS using new map structure and I literally couldn't kill his Chaos Lord on a Juggernaut before it just started tearing into stuff for the duration of the game. T5 3+/3++ regenerating d3 wounds a turn is hard as hell to crack without a clear line of fire and while I still won by objectives even my Grand Master swinging a Relic Sword just bounced clean off him. Characters are vulnerable in larger maps, but in patrol/incursion games with the smaller board size, it's really hard to get a clear shot on a durable character like a bike mount or custodes. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365349-how-do-you-plan-to-handle-the-new-look-out-sir-rule/page/3/#findComment-5577044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothical Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Surely outriders are vehicles, like land speeders. T5, W6 and only 2CP for a 3++ if you advance, otherwise just a 4++. Not bad for 60 points. And no explode IIRC. Nope, not vehicles. Keywords = Biker, Primaris, Outrider Squad. Land Speeders could make good screens, it all depends on how Line of Sight is working in this edition in terms of skimmer bases. I am not familiar enough with the rules yet. Although until there are more bike-mounted characters I don't think it is worth sacrificing the speed and mobility of a Land Speeder Squadron to protect characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365349-how-do-you-plan-to-handle-the-new-look-out-sir-rule/page/3/#findComment-5577465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 If/when Bladeguard and Outriders get access to squad sizes of 3-6 rather than 3 fixed, they'll be a lot better at screening characters. Both units are pretty durable. If you have an Impulsor or two full of melee units, they'll make very good screens for a bike chaplain. First the enemy would have to shoot down the vehicle, then also shoot down the troops inside, before they can even start on the T5/4++ chaplain. Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365349-how-do-you-plan-to-handle-the-new-look-out-sir-rule/page/3/#findComment-5577467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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