Medjugorje Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) After so much time I think I have to show some progress I made with my army . Its not that fluffy Crusade some others have ( I have so much respect for so much detail in terms of lore, story, and so on) but I want to show you some of my models which I have painted, just build or battles I ´ve fought (in tournaments and anywhere else). I start with the Hero of Helsreach: Edited July 26, 2020 by Medjugorje Sete, Gnosis, Llagos_Tyrant and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 i am very proud: JAG Templar, Brother Kraskor, Othniel's Blade and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5571273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimVandy85 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Excellent conversions. My one quip is that Helbrecht is missing his crown. A badge of office, no? Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5571279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 yeah.... I tried to clip Helbrechts helmet but it already failed on the emperors champion. So I was very happy to get a head who fits perfect. maybe I will give him a crown per greenstuff or wire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5571282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 so I played this time and lost very hard against Necrons (with leaked Dynastie tactics). At the moment I dont have enough power to make a battlereport but in next few days I will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5571865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_warrior12 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Great job on the conversions. So very wish we got a primaris upgrade for any of our heroes. Keep up the good work, I shall be fighting the tinmen soon as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5572126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 I played again, this time with Indomitus units and i am really impressed how strong they are. If there is enough time I will write you about my 2 games in next few days. I played against 2 of the best players in my region so both games were on a high competitive level. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5575834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 What head did you use for Helbretch ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5575854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 What head did you use for Helbretch ? The Indomitus Chaplain head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5576047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 So its on: My first game was against Necrons from the Nihilak Dynasty and we used the new chapter tactics and dynasty rules which were revealed a few days ago. My list was a bit mix between all things I wanted to play without optimizing that whole list. So I played Helbrecht Indomiuts Lieutenant with Aurelian Shroud Chaplain with Jump Pack as MoS with 5++ and +3" for auras. 1x5 Scouts 1x10 Scouts 2x 5 Intercessors with Hammers 2 Impulsors with 4++ 1x Redemptor Drop Pod with 5 man Grav-Devastors 2x4 Company veterans 2x Judiciars (one with the relic which gives always +1 attack instead of shock assault) a Land Raider Crusader My opponent played: 3x3 heavy destroyer 1x10 Lychguards 1x6 Destroyer a Monolith and 3x3 new melee destroyer new destroyer lord a few different no named characters (one with the teleport relic) and 1x5 Immortals ( everything I remember so far) Both players did nothing in strategic reserves and I was allowed to start first so I tried to kill the heavy destroyers because they were the major threat to my vehicles and I wasnt able to destroy them all and so he was able to kill my Redemptor although I had 4++ and the Stratagem for -1 damage and the 5+++ on it. I dont want to drive too far into it. My list was not optimized and his MSU style army claimed all objectives wich were remote from my army because my scouts werent strong enough to hold that. My army did well in close combat although he could stand his position and after 3 round we stopped because I wasnt able to win anymore because of points. There were a few very bad dicerolls but in the end the result would be the same (just one round later). so I created a new list for my secound game which should be very strong and everything I noted and learned from the first game should be going in this new list and yesterday I was able to play against the mighty Tau. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5576136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 yes. but like i said I switched the list into Helbrecht Indomitus Castelan Jump Pack MoS Leviathan 1x5 Scouts 2x 5 HammerIntercessors 2x Impulsors 2x3 Bladeguards 2x3 Eradicators 1x5 Company Veterans with Stormshields and chainswords 1x4 Company Veterans with Stormshields and Stormbolters. 1x Justiciar BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5576248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wolfhart Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 How were the hammer (I’m assuming) impulsors? Now i want an Impulsor with a marine in the hatch wielding a thunderhammer and the according profile, instead of a shield dome or whatever. You know, like the "drive me closer" meme, just with more ZEAL! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5577670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 a meme with a chaplain giving a "devot push" Marshal Wolfhart 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5578076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 i am very proud: And you should be! Did you get around to painting them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5584266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) after the great response in the 9th ed room I will test the next list with pure firstborn marines and figure out how to play as competitive as possible without impulsors and devot push combination. Thats the next list: Gesamtpunkte der Armee : 1998 Battalion Detachment: Black Templars: - 1986 Punkte (PL 118) *************** 3 HQ *************** High Marshal Helbrecht - - - > 155 Punkte (PL 9) 1 Lieutenant, 1 x Master-crafted boltgun, 1 x Jump pack - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5) Chaplain, Jump Pack + Bolt pistol -> 0 Pkt. - - - > 105 Punkte (PL 6) *************** 4 Standard *************** Crusader Squad 5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Power fist, 5 Neophytes, 5 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol + Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Power fist -> 10 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte (PL 8) Crusader Squad 5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Power fist, 5 Neophytes, 5 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol + Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Power fist -> 10 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte (PL 8) Crusader Squad 5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Plasma gun + Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Combi-plasma -> 10 Pkt. - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5) Crusader Squad 5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Plasma gun + Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Combi-plasma -> 10 Pkt. - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5) *************** 5 Elite *************** 3 Cenobyte Servitors - - - > 18 Punkte (PL 1) Ironclad Dreadnought, Dreadnought chainfist, Dreadnought combat weapon + Storm bolter, Meltagun - - - > 113 Punkte (PL 10) 5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Chainsword + Sergeant, 1 x Thunder hammer -> 15 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8) 5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Chainsword + Sergeant, 1 x Thunder hammer -> 15 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8) 5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Storm bolter + Sergeant, 1 x Storm bolter -> 3 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8) *************** 2 Unterstützung *************** Devastator Squad 5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon + Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun -> 0 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8) Devastator Squad 5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon + Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun -> 0 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8) *************** 5 Transporter *************** Rhino, Storm bolter - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4) Rhino, Storm bolter - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4) Rhino, Storm bolter - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4) Rhino, Storm bolter - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4) Drop Pod, Storm bolter - - - > 68 Punkte (PL 5) (Idea is the MSU-concept. Each Crusadersquads embarked in a rhino + the melee company veterans with the shooty crusadersquads. one Devastor in the first round per drop pod the other one in strategic reserves close to Helbrecht which should be 9" Range because of the 2 litanies of the MoS, Devine Protection for the Dread + Stratagem for -1 damage and aurelian shroud. Edited August 19, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5588178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnosis Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) I wonder if it would be beneficial to remove the neophites and the cenobite servitors in order to upgrade the rhinos into razorbacks with twin lasscannons, heavy bolters or twin assualt cannons? Especially I believe that some extra long range las cannons could be benefitial Edited August 19, 2020 by Gnosis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5588504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) In my experience you need bigger squads to stay in combat to use tenacious assault. And I want to test them all... company veterans alone wont win the game in melee. But clearly you could easy change the 2 melee squads into 1 shooty and with that points change rhinos to razorbacks. Edited August 19, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5588521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 So. Before the new codex I was able to participate on a tournament with the fallowing list: Patrol Detachment:IMPERIUM:- 999 Punkte (PL 55)*************** 2 HQ ***************High Marshal Helbrecht - - - > 155 Punkte (PL 9) WarlordPrimaris Chaplain - - - > 85 Punkte (PL 6)MoS + Wise Orator + Ancient Breviary (Ferment Acclamation + Divine Protection)*************** 1 Standard ***************5 Intercessor, Bolt rifle + Sword Brother with Powerfist-> 0 Pkt. - - - > 110 Punkte (PL 5)*************** 1 Elite ***************3 Bladeguard Veterans - - - > 105 Punkte (PL 5)3 Bladeguard Veterans - - - > 105 Punkte (PL 5)*************** 2 Unterstützung ***************Devastator Squad - 5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon + Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun -> 0 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)Devastator Squad - 5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon + Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun -> 0 Pkt. - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)*************** 2 Transporter ***************Impulsor, 2 Storm bolters, Shield Dome - - - > 131 Punkte (PL 4)Drop Pod, Storm bolter - - - > 68 Punkte (PL 5) Rank 4 / 20 after 4 games. win against Tyranids with 9 Zoantrophes, 2 flying Hive Tyrants, 2 biovores, a zoantrophe character and 2 squads of ripper swarms. win against Tau with Riptide (Relic cannon), 2 different types of commanders, a few breacher and fire warriors, ghosts and a transport. win against mass tyranids with 3 zoantrophes and the zoantrophe character, 1 big squad hormagaunts and 3 big squads termagants, 3 venomtropes, a tervigon and a forgeworld monster I dont know the name... lost against Nihilak Necrons which had a 2++ save with 6 wraith, 1 skorpekh lord, 1 Illuminor Szeras, 2x3 heavy destroyers, 1x6 destroyers and a few scarabs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5620647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This seems like a very cool list! To Primarisy for my taste, but I'm glad it worked for you. I must get back into a more melee-oriented mindset myself, though. How did Helbrecht perform? I always find him to be a bit too expensive points-wise with apparently little more in return over a regular Marshal. But that's just probably my assessment based on a frustration that we get our special rules through characters and these rules aren't that great to begin with (compare Helbrecht and BA's army-wide rule!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5620976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) ??? It didnt worked... not perfectly. I is not a podium placing. And Helbrecht was a must have all the 8th to the last pdf... Full rerolls are alone!!!!! And he was great. He survived each game...and killed Illuminor Szeras, one Flying Tyrant (just 2 wounds left)... He didnt fought often He was there to improve the every other unit with his 9" bubble(s) Edited October 22, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5621089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Its in german language: But i play against Black Templars with my Necron army ( BT vs BT would not be that good) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5626252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 After a few games tested I am confident with my Black Templar force to win tournaments again. Sadly there are no events. My list look like that -Indomitus High Marshal with Aurelian Shroud and Rites of War -Indomitus MoS with Ancient Breviary and Ferment acclamation + dinive protection -2x5 Incursor -1x5 Assault Intercessors with Fist -2x5 + 1x6 Bladeguards -3x Gattling Redemptors 1x6 Eradicators with heavy Melterrifles and 2 Multi meltas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5638367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Played against a Club member (Dark Angels) and against a White Scars player. Both had very hard tournament lists and I succeed victory against both although I think the next game against the same WS player will be much harder ( he is an amazing player --> 2nd place in ITC germany) https://www.bestcoastpairings.com/germ-itctruncated?fbclid=IwAR0Mb4CwU1qfDebpDgyU_q2NigYZ0RlZ183-1YUFHUf2g5LLY06IjCyeaLA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5638564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Played against a Club member (Dark Angels) and against a White Scars player. Both had very hard tournament lists and I succeed victory against both although I think the next game against the same WS player will be much harder ( he is an amazing player --> 2nd place in ITC germany) https://www.bestcoastpairings.com/germ-itctruncated?fbclid=IwAR0Mb4CwU1qfDebpDgyU_q2NigYZ0RlZ183-1YUFHUf2g5LLY06IjCyeaLA Nice! Same list as above or something different? Anything cool about how you played/ used strats? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5638670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 I played a list very close to this list. In fact this list is the result of the last two games. I cannot wait for the next tournament saison. DAMN Corona Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/#findComment-5638806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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