Medjugorje Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 The most important Stratagems are - transhuman physiology (every game) - will of the emperor - adavance and charge is the most important stratagem in my opinion - devot push at the right time. But honestly with that list I use it not that often as I used it before with other lists. - forget the name (+1 save on Gravis against dmg1 weapons) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5638808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 The most important Stratagems are - transhuman physiology (every game) - will of the emperor - adavance and charge is the most important stratagem in my opinion - devot push at the right time. But honestly with that list I use it not that often as I used it before with other lists. - forget the name (+1 save on Gravis against dmg1 weapons) Cheers! How are you using Devout Push? It seems super powerful! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5638904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) its often situational. It depends on the matchup and the situation but it can be used: - to ignore overwatch instead of charging - after a successful charge I need the 6" consolidate move to reach another infantry unit to use our stratagem which forbid them to fall back or just hinder a shooty unit to do so. - sometimes I use it to reach combat the next round more easy ( its just 3" movement closer to the enemy) - sometimes I hide a unit from the enemy so that cannot be shot and in the opponent melee phase they use 3" to grap a objecitve marker - sometimes I use it if an enemy has charged and I want to prevent that unit to use their 3" pile in... so i make the "pile in" so his unit cannot use their move effective As I had a Judiciar in my list - I often used the 3" extra movement to use his ability. (sometime an enemy charge your unit and stay outside from 3" ) Edited December 2, 2020 by Medjugorje Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5638979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 The most important Stratagems are - transhuman physiology (every game) - will of the emperor - adavance and charge is the most important stratagem in my opinion - devot push at the right time. But honestly with that list I use it not that often as I used it before with other lists. - forget the name (+1 save on Gravis against dmg1 weapons) dont forget Wisdom of the ancient Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5639681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 So now I´ve played again a game to improve my list and i am not very happy about the meta analysis. I think against Sisters of battle ist extremly hard to win. I played Helbrecht ( WL ) Grimaldus ( without Hero of the chapter with +1 to wound and canticle of hate) Primaris Master of Sanctity on Bike with Rites of war and Ancient breviary ( 5+++ and +1 attack) 2x5 Incursors 1x5 Crusadersquad 2x3 Bladeguards 1x10 Assault Terminators (8TH+SS and 2PC) 2x5 Vanguard Veterans with Stormshields and Powerclaws Primaris Selfless healer Cenobite Servitors 1x6 Eradicators with heavy Melta rifle and 2 MM Played against ( in 2 detachments for different chapter tactics or Ordos) 1 Canoness 2 Preacher 1 Imagifier 1 Junith Erutia 3x10 Repentias 3x5 Battlesisters 3x5 Retributors 1x8 Zephyrim Squad 1 Immolator with Heavy Bolters 3 Rhinos 2x1 Pentia Engines or Mortifiers (cant remember which one of them) 2x2 Deathcult Assassines Its hard to say but I dont see a way to beat them. Its not that this list is table you but if manage a trade, the opponent can handle this type of game so much better. And one round of shooting +1 squad of Repentias destroy even a squad of 10 Terminators (although they did a good job). I need more dakka and I think I should stay away from Grimaldus and get a Lieutenant with Aurelian shroud and put Eradicators away to get 6 man squad of Inceptors with Plasma. But that type of unit is maybe not the choice in the ongoing meta with all -1 damage on DA Terminators and against Death Guard. How do you run your tournament successful? ( I mean to have a chance for going undefeated in a tournament) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5666150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalSeer Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 So now I´ve played again a game to improve my list and i am not very happy about the meta analysis. I think against Sisters of battle ist extremly hard to win. I played Helbrecht ( WL ) Grimaldus ( without Hero of the chapter with +1 to wound and canticle of hate) Primaris Master of Sanctity on Bike with Rites of war and Ancient breviary ( 5+++ and +1 attack) 2x5 Incursors 1x5 Crusadersquad 2x3 Bladeguards 1x10 Assault Terminators (8TH+SS and 2PC) 2x5 Vanguard Veterans with Stormshields and Powerclaws Primaris Selfless healer Cenobite Servitors 1x6 Eradicators with heavy Melta rifle and 2 MM Played against ( in 2 detachments for different chapter tactics or Ordos) 1 Canoness 2 Preacher 1 Imagifier 1 Junith Erutia 3x10 Repentias 3x5 Battlesisters 3x5 Retributors 1x8 Zephyrim Squad 1 Immolator with Heavy Bolters 3 Rhinos 2x1 Pentia Engines or Mortifiers (cant remember which one of them) 2x2 Deathcult Assassines Its hard to say but I dont see a way to beat them. Its not that this list is table you but if manage a trade, the opponent can handle this type of game so much better. And one round of shooting +1 squad of Repentias destroy even a squad of 10 Terminators (although they did a good job). I need more dakka and I think I should stay away from Grimaldus and get a Lieutenant with Aurelian shroud and put Eradicators away to get 6 man squad of Inceptors with Plasma. But that type of unit is maybe not the choice in the ongoing meta with all -1 damage on DA Terminators and against Death Guard. How do you run your tournament successful? ( I mean to have a chance for going undefeated in a tournament) I see a lot of hammer units but not much anvil. Sadly, terminators aren't going to be super surviveable if you stick them out front. This makes it so you have to time the hell out of your msu squad assaults, which usually requires a bunch of cp or transports. If you want to make this work, it will likely require transports. At least an impulsor or two to get some choppy guys up the field. I'd also consider dropping a character to plus up your troops a bit. TLDR: None of your units are bad but you've got no staying power b/c of all the toys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5666225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 With only 15 models comprising your troops choices, the very first thing I would be doing against you is taking those guys out. Wiping out your obsec means a lot less worrying about your ability to score. I feel like bolstering your troops seems like a good way to go. Get some intercessors in there for that dakka. The sisters having over double the minis as you means that they have double the guns, even if you do end up with a similar amount of wounds on the table. As they said, maybe cut a character or some of your heavy infantry for just some more volume. Quantity has a quality of its own. Just the humble thoughts of a frater. Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5666253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) With only 15 models comprising your troops choices, the very first thing I would be doing against you is taking those guys out. Wiping out your obsec means a lot less worrying about your ability to score. I feel like bolstering your troops seems like a good way to go. Get some intercessors in there for that dakka. The sisters having over double the minis as you means that they have double the guns, even if you do end up with a similar amount of wounds on the table. As they said, maybe cut a character or some of your heavy infantry for just some more volume. Quantity has a quality of its own. Just the humble thoughts of a frater. I had 40 points in the main mission - more then my opponent. Dont forget I have Rites of war on my chaplain. That wasnt that big problem. We analysed that game and both players thought that in each of the tactics we can use, the SoB has an small advantage. Edited February 11, 2021 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5666476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) https://ibb.co/pzrHqcN https://ibb.co/d4rcxfV https://ibb.co/vPHjq91 https://ibb.co/VHfCD9N Edited April 30, 2021 by Medjugorje Brat Igorus and Doghouse 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5693455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Good job painting and detailing these Sons of Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5693487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) So - LVO Ticket is there. Hopefully our Supplement is out there in time and I have a ticket for the grand alliance open in Bremen in october (128 person). Edited June 3, 2021 by Medjugorje BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5706628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Hit em hard ! Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5706693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Good luck! I hope that you will do well and have fun. Also, let's hope for the best and that the tournament get organised. Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5706829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 It has begun. On Saturday there is a tournament (30 person), I was asked to play because another participant has cancelled. 2k points and 3 games. I think I am going to risk and play my Terminator list. Accept any challenge, no matter the odds. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5721724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Good luck and may your dice roll hot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5721796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) +++ Hexenhaus BT Medjugorje (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [103 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] +++++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Black Templars) [103 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] +++ Configuration [12CP] +Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]Chapter Selection: Black TemplarsDetachment Command Cost+ No Force Org Slot [1 PL, 18pts] +Cenobyte Servitors [1 PL, 18pts]. . 3x Cenobyte Servitor [18pts]: 3x Close Combat Weapon+ HQ [20 PL, -1CP, 390pts] +Chaplain Grimaldus [5 PL, 95pts]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Artificer Crozius, Frag & Krak grenades, Litany of Hate, Plasma pistolHigh Marshal Helbrecht [8 PL, 155pts]: Combi-melta, Frag & Krak grenades, Frontline Commander, Sword of the High Marshals, WarlordPrimaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 1. Litany of Divine Protection, 4. Fires of Devotion, Absolver Bolt pistol, Ancient Breviary, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity [1 PL, 25pts], Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Litany of Hate, Rites of War, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP], Twin Bolt rifle+ Troops [15 PL, 225pts] +Crusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts]. . 4x Initiate [60pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades. . Sword Brother [15pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenadesCrusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts]. . 4x Initiate w/ Chainsword [60pts]: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades. . Sword Brother [15pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenadesCrusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts]. . 4x Initiate w/ Chainsword [60pts]: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades. . Sword Brother [15pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades+ Elites [43 PL, 897pts] +Apothecary [4 PL, 75pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Crusader's HelmTerminator Assault Squad [18 PL, 372pts]: Teleport Homer [5pts]. . Assault Terminator Sergeant [43pts]. . . . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield [10pts]: Storm shield, Thunder hammer [10pts]. . 6x Assault Terminator w/THSS [258pts]: 6x Storm shield, 6x Thunder hammer [60pts]. . 2x Assault Terminator w/x2LC [66pts]: 2x Lightning Claw (Pair)Vanguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Jump Pack [1 PL, 15pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran Sergeant [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 300pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 30pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]. . Vanguard Veteran Sergeant [27pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [5pts]+ Fast Attack [5 PL, 100pts] +Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]. . 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades. . Suppressor Sergeant: Accelerator autocannon, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades+ Heavy Support [19 PL, 370pts] +Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Las Fusil [10pts]. . Eliminator Sergeant [30pts]: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak, Frag & Krak grenades, Las Fusil [5pts]. . 2x Eliminators [50pts]: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenadesEradicator Squad [7 PL, 155pts]: Heavy melta rifle [10pts]. . Eradicator [45pts]: Bolt pistol. . Eradicator Sgt [45pts]: Bolt pistol. . Eradicator with MM [55pts]: Bolt pistol, Multi-melta [10pts] Whirlwind Castellan launcher [5 PL, 125pts] Edited July 21, 2021 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5722139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) at last i dropped. I went to this tournament but while playing I started feeling sick. So i had to drop. I played two games, 92:71 against Necrons and 65:72 against Chaos Soup (Belakor + Morty) before I had to stop. Edited September 4, 2021 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5723167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 so after a few tourney with my drukhari ( and 2x4th and one 1th placing) i will play ONE MORE tournament before we get a new book and the last tourney with my BT which was a huuuge disappointment. I think I will play the usual list with Terminators and VV. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5738056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Did you ever think about to insert an assassin? Current tools may not enough to ensure a good matchup against TS/GK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5738064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 No. Although i loved to play at least 1 Culexus Assassine before the secound SM Codex dropped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5738189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 +++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Black Templars) [99 PL, -2CP, 1,998pts] ++ + Configuration + Chapter Selection: Black Templars Detachment Command Cost + HQ + Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 1. Litany of Divine Protection, 4. Fires of Devotion, Ancient Breviary, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Wise Orator Primaris Chapter Master [7 PL, 145pts]: Chapter Command: Chapter Master, Rites of War, The Crusader's Helm, Warlord . Heavy bolt pistol, Master-crafted power sword and Relic shield: Master-crafted power sword, Relic Shield Primaris Techmarine [4 PL, 80pts]: The Aurillian Shroud + Troops + Crusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts] . 4x Initiate: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sword Brother: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Crusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts] . 4x Initiate: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sword Brother: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Crusader Squad [5 PL, 75pts] . 4x Initiate: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sword Brother: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Elites + Cenobyte Servitors [1 PL, 18pts] . 3x Cenobyte Servitor: 3x Close Combat Weapon Leviathan Dreadnought [13 PL, -1CP, 240pts]: 2x Twin Volkite calivers, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 300pts]: Jump Pack . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran Sergeant: Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 300pts]: Jump Pack . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran Sergeant: Lightning Claw, Storm shield + Fast Attack + Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 180pts] . Attack Bike: Multi-melta . Attack Bike: Multi-melta . Attack Bike: Multi-melta ++ Total: [99 PL, -2CP, 1,998pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5738533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 Last tourney is over. 5th place of 20 and best Marines. The opponents lists were strong. Lot of Drukhari, Admech and the Mani Cheema list were played. 67vs83 against Knights 83vs39 against Thousand Sons 94vs32 against Raven Guard I will be writing about it later on. BLACK BLΠFLY and JAG Templar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5740874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Comparing with your earlier lists, all the thunder hammers were removed. And you paired with a Knights player… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5740889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 haha yes. Small Events with 3 games are always a bit luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5740890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Last tourney is over. 5th place of 20 and best Marines. The opponents lists were strong. Lot of Drukhari, Admech and the Mani Cheema list were played. 67vs83 against Knights 83vs39 against Thousand Sons 94vs32 against Raven Guard I will be writing about it later on. one of them must be one point more. Didnt know anymore. But it does not matter. I think the only thing I will change is to put a hammer into each squad of Vanguards and 5 of them will switched to a whirlwind to have fight last. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365442-the-medju-crusade/page/2/#findComment-5741533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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