Rodrick Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 well is more like a nerf atomic bomb dropped on us, our unique doctrine does almost nothing now and our chapter tactic got nerfed , no more 5+ OW , still we can be competitive. the way the game is played now, objective centric, with our resilience, i think we are in a good place. my top 3 units now are: 1 - Redemptor dreadnought, bc new rules , lots of dakka and wounds 2 - intercessors, same reason 8th, fnp 5+ 3 - Dreadnoughts in general, shoot and punch, terrain cover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I have no time for sadness. Overwatch is so eighth edition. 9x19 Parabellum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5573635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Anything that can really capitalize on turn one alpha strike. Move them heavies up, dakka yourself an advantage and then outlast the remaining opposition with your superior durability. I have a feeling that IH will really like the new Gladiator. Invictors may still have use to drop on an objective and help with dakka. Stalker boys in the back, Bolt Rifles at the front. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5573800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 invictors are awesome, but the price increase was above average intercessors blobs with 5 + fnp are good, the thing is , you cant make master apothecary bubble reach all objetives with intercessors camping Anything that can really capitalize on turn one alpha strike. Move them heavies up, dakka yourself an advantage and then outlast the remaining opposition with your superior durability. I have a feeling that IH will really like the new Gladiator. Invictors may still have use to drop on an objective and help with dakka. Stalker boys in the back, Bolt Rifles at the front. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5573943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 If you have any friends who play a horde list Do not bring your dual grav bombard and flamers leviathan to a friendly game it deletes everything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5575708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 But that dread is quite JAWSOME ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5575855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinkleLord Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I'm really liking how the Outriders play. A fast element in our lists help push the board more as I'm trying to get away from the Ferrios bubble. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5583833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 ....... crickets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5583860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm really liking how the Outriders play. A fast element in our lists help push the board more as I'm trying to get away from the Ferrios bubble. I’m eager to tool up the outrider sarge with the teeth of mars and go finish off vehicles or go primaris hunting. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5583890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinkleLord Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm really liking how the Outriders play. A fast element in our lists help push the board more as I'm trying to get away from the Ferrios bubble. I’m eager to tool up the outrider sarge with the teeth of mars and go finish off vehicles or go primaris hunting. Haven't thought of that one yet! So far I've used two squads and hunted softer targets and tagging vehicles in combat. Usually paired with a captain on bike for support. This weekend I'll be trying out a list I wanted to do since 8th and it will probably go horribly but I am excited. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5583933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Smash Cpt with SoH WLT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5584277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm really liking how the Outriders play. A fast element in our lists help push the board more as I'm trying to get away from the Ferrios bubble.I’m eager to tool up the outrider sarge with the teeth of mars and go finish off vehicles or go primaris hunting. Haven't thought of that one yet! So far I've used two squads and hunted softer targets and tagging vehicles in combat. Usually paired with a captain on bike for support. This weekend I'll be trying out a list I wanted to do since 8th and it will probably go horribly but I am excited. Don't forget to take the Chaplain Outrider with the Chapter-specific Litany for +1 Strength. BLACK BLŒ FLY and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5584528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I don’t think there’s one best unit... Iron Hands are super resilient which is so important this edition. To me it’s all about the synergy . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5584975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Augustus Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 When non-primaris go to two wounds all of those units will be super tough. I've a squad of jump vanguard with hammers and shields that can be hard as nails as it is, double wounds will probably take them out of casual lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5586823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinkleLord Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 What do you think are some good CC units we can use? I'm trying to round out my list and have some CC element in case I face a CC army. I was kinda thinking Bladeguard Veterans with a Apothecary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like Cataprachtii terminators the best... good invul, can swing fists at BS2, best armor save and combi bolters still rock. Don’t forget to shoot the grenade harness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Termies with three wounds sounds good, but i dont think that non-veteran marines will get another wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Terms are going up to three wounds . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Termies with three wounds sounds good, but i dont think that non-veteran marines will get another wound. GW confirmed that all “fully fledged” marines are going to 2 wounds, including grey knights and chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Ah, good to know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5589388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 If heavy intercessors have gravis T5 and 3 wounds they will be the troop choice gojng forward for me thats DG + level resilience for a troop choice BLACK BLΠFLY and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5593778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Pretty sure it is good news for Iron Hands. Especially for my firstborn army I'm building right now. I'm sure more good news will come with the new dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5595068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 It depends on their ranged weapon. Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5595096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wako1302 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I'm still having lots of joy with my Leviathan (especially as CP does not seem to be a real issue anymore)Leviathan + 2 Storm Cannon Arrays - Stratagem : Hero Of The Chapter (gain Warlord Trait) - Stratagem : March Of The Ancients (gain "character", +1 Attacks & +1 Leadership) - Warlord Trait : All Flesh is Weakness (on a 5+ that wound is not lost) Then sometimes boosted with - Wisdom Of The Ancients - Mercy Is Weakness - Ironstone - Duty Eternal Aothaine, tychobi, BLACK BLΠFLY and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5595249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I think termies of all stripes are going to rock this edition. The 3rd wound means you have a reasonable average chance of getting something out of the FnP, which means, on average, we are rocking 4 wound termies (and that's before the Happy Apothecary buffs them). Add the changes to Flamers means you have good utility on the Heavy Flamer off the deepstrike. And the general increase in AP across the board due to combat doctrines and such means that 5+ Invuln sets a ceiling that may actually even be useful for protecting termies. XeonDragon, Aothaine, Flesh Creature and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365531-best-iron-hands-unit-9th/#findComment-5595266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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