2000pt Black Templars

[lobbinskij]

I found the base of this list a few editions ago and it looked like a fun list. After that, a couple of editions have passed and I still haven't really got any further. How does a list like look now in the 9th edition?

 

Note that the list is converted from earlier version and currently not fully compliant, 2035/2000 :)

 

HQ: 95

Chaplain Grimaldus 95

 

Troops: 576

Crusader Squad (10 Initiates) 7 with BP/CS, 1 with BP/PF, 1 with a melta-gun, 1 SB with BP/PS, 3 Neophytes with BP/CS. 217. Rides in Land Raider Crusader

Crusader Squad (10 Initiates) 7 with BP/CS, 1 with BP/PF, 1 with a melta-gun, 1 SB with BP/PS, 3 Neophytes with BP/CS. 217. Rides in Land Raider Crusader

Crusader Squad (5 Initiates) 3 with BG, 1 with a plasma gun, 1 SB with combi-plasma and power maul, 3 Neophytes with shotgun. 142. Rides with a drop pod

 

Elites: 290

Venerable Dreadnought with combat weapon with heavy flamer, multi-melta 145 Rides with a drop pod

Venerable Dreadnought with combat weapon with heavy flamer, multi-melta 145 Rides with a drop pod

 

Fast Attack: 85

Bike Squad, 1 sergeant with BP, 1 biker with BP, 1 biker with melta-gun

 

Heavy Support: 620

Land Raider Crusader with 2x hurricane bolter, multi-melta, twin assault cannon. 310

Land Raider Crusader with 2x hurricane bolter, multi-melta, twin assault cannon. 310

 

Flyer: 165

Stormtalon Gunship with Skyhammer missile launcher and twin assault cannon

 

Dedicated Transport: 204

Drop pod with storm bolter. 68

Drop pod with storm bolter. 68

Drop pod with storm bolter. 68

[Hymnblade]

Sadly, most of the units in this list are pretty bad in 8th/9th. Crusader Squads in particular are pretty fragile and don't do nearly enough damage to justify their point cost. Land Raiders were quite bad in 8th, although they've gotten a little better in 9th.

 

Venerable Dreadnoughts are still pretty good, although twin las/storm bolter is a better loadout for most purposes than multimelta/flamer. You can't put them in regular drop pods, but there is a dreadnought drop pod, or you could put them in Strategic Reserves.

[lobbinskij]

Nice catch on the drop pods. Probably got replaced in the conversion between editions.

 

Another few points over the limit then :)

 

Suggestions on the troops?

[CCE1981]

Primaris Intercessors to hold the rear or the new Assault Intercessors with the new and improved Astartes Chainswords if you want them to run to the middle of the board. Incursors might be a good idea as well to forward deploy them for early objective grabs or to get into the fight with your opponent first turn.

[lobbinskij]

Thanks for the input. The new assault intercessors looks really nice.

 

What about something like this? I’d like to keep the crusader squad as I already have the models :)

 

HQ

Chaplain Grimaldus [6 PL, 95pts]

 

Troops [32 PL, 552pts]

Assault Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 195pts]
 9x Assault Intercessor [171pts]
 Assault Intercessor Sgt [24pts] Plasma Pistol [5pts] 


 

Crusader Squad [12 PL, 217pts]
 7x Initiate w/Chainsword [105pts]
 Initiate w/Heavy or Melee Weapon [25pts] Power fist [10pts] 
 Initiate w/Special Weapon [25pts] Meltagun [10pts] 
 3x Neophyte w/Combat Knife [42pts]
 Sword Brother [20pts] Power sword [5pts]

 

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 140pts]
 6x Intercessor [120pts]
 Intercessor Sergeant [20pts]


 

Elites [12 PL, 296pts]

Venerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 148pts]
 Selections: Twin lascannon [40pts] 
 Dreadnought combat weapon w/Storm Bolter [23pts]


 

Venerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 148pts]
 Selections: Twin lascannon [40pts] 
 Dreadnought combat weapon w/Storm Bolter [23pts]


 

Fast Attack [4 PL, 85pts]

Bike Squad [4 PL, 85pts]
 Biker Sergeant [25pts]
 Space Marine Biker w/Bolt Pistol [25pts]
 Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon [35pts]
 Selections: Meltagun [10pts]




Heavy Support [14 PL, 310pts]

Land Raider Crusader [14 PL, 310pts]
 Selections: 2x Hurricane bolter [30pts], Multi-melta [25pts], Twin assault cannon [40pts]

 

Flyer [8 PL, 185pts]

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 185pts]
Selections: Twin assault cannon [40pts], Typhoon missile launcher [40pts] 


 

Dedicated Transport [27 PL, 476pts]

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod [6 PL, 80pts]

 

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod [6 PL, 80pts]


 

Repulsor [15 PL, 316pts]
Selections: 2x Storm Bolters [6pts], Auto Launchers, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon [30pts], Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber [5pts], Ironhail Heavy Stubber [5pts], 2x Krakstorm Grenade Launcher [10pts], Twin heavy bolter [30pts]

[Medjugorje]

to be honest. For the new edition I would try your list except the dreadknoughts are not allowed to take drop pods but they would fit into the MSU concept of the new edition. With the Aurelian shroud in first round your units would be very tough so I think its okay to take them.