First 9th list help

[Squike]

This is what I’m thinking so far, I definitely feel like 2000 points isn’t enough to fit everything I want, but I guess il just have to get used to that.

 

chosen and alpha lord in reserve, I would have liked a rhino for them maybe but haven’t got the points.

 

2x 5 mans csm with plasma squads in the rhino going after mid field objectives with the venom crawler support. I would probably prefer more helbrutes maybe but I only have the 1.

 

the rest back field and fire support

 

 

Chaos 010820 (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [106 PL, 2,000pts, 12CP]

• Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [50 PL, 976pts, 15CP]
  • Configuration [15CP]
    • Battle Size [12CP]

      Selections: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]

    • Detachment CP
    • Legion [3CP]

      Selections: Red Corsairs [3CP]

  • HQ [16 PL, 310pts]
    • Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 195pts]

      Selections: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Daemonic axe [10pts], Khorne, Warlord, Wings [1 PL, 35pts]

    • Sorcerer [7 PL, 115pts]

      Selections: Bolt pistol, Diabolic Strength, Force sword, Jump pack [1 PL, 25pts], No Chaos Mark, Warptime

  • Troops [16 PL, 325pts]
    • Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 80pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

      • Aspiring Champion [14pts]

        Selections: Boltgun, Chainsword

      • 3x Marine w/ boltgun [42pts]

        Selections: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

      • Marine w/ heavy or special weapon [24pts]

        Selections: Plasma gun [10pts]

    • Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 80pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

      • Aspiring Champion [14pts]

        Selections: Boltgun, Chainsword

      • 3x Marine w/ boltgun [42pts]

        Selections: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

      • Marine w/ heavy or special weapon [24pts]

        Selections: Plasma gun [10pts]

    • Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 80pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

      • Aspiring Champion [14pts]

        Selections: Boltgun, Chainsword

      • 3x Marine w/ boltgun [42pts]

        Selections: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

      • Marine w/ heavy or special weapon [24pts]

        Selections: Autocannon [10pts]

    • Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 85pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

      • Aspiring Champion [14pts]

        Selections: Boltgun, Chainsword

      • 3x Marine w/ boltgun [42pts]

        Selections: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

      • Marine w/ heavy or special weapon [29pts]

        Selections: Lascannon [15pts]

  • Heavy Support [14 PL, 260pts]
    • Venomcrawler [7 PL, 130pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

    • Venomcrawler [7 PL, 130pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

  • Dedicated Transport [4 PL, 81pts]
    • Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 81pts]

      Selections: Combi-bolter [3pts], Combi-bolter [3pts], No Chaos Mark

• Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [56 PL, 1,024pts, -3CP]
  • Configuration [-3CP]
    • Detachment CP [-3CP]
    • Legion

      Selections: Alpha Legion

  • HQ [11 PL, 180pts]
    • Chaos Lord [5 PL, 90pts]

      Selections: Chainsword, Combi-plasma [10pts], Hydra's Teeth, No Chaos Mark

    • Sorcerer [6 PL, 90pts]

      Selections: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force stave, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

  • Elites [17 PL, 336pts]
    • Chosen [11 PL, 206pts]

      Selections: No Chaos Mark

      • Chosen [15pts]

        Selections: Chainsword

      • Chosen [15pts]

        Selections: Chainsword

      • Chosen [15pts]

        Selections: Chainsword

      • Chosen Champion [26pts]

        Selections: Chainaxe [1pts], Combi-plasma [10pts]

      • Chosen w/ combi or special weapon [25pts]

        Selections: Chainsword, Combi-plasma [10pts]

      • Chosen w/ combi or special weapon [25pts]

        Selections: Chainsword, Combi-plasma [10pts]

      • Chosen w/ combi or special weapon [25pts]

        Selections: Chainsword, Combi-plasma [10pts]

      • Chosen w/ combi or special weapon [25pts]

        Selections: Chainsword, Combi-plasma [10pts]

      • Chosen w/ heavy or special weapon [35pts]

        Selections: Reaper chaincannon [20pts]

    • Helbrute [6 PL, 130pts]

      Selections: Mark of Slaanesh, Missile launcher [20pts], Twin lascannon [40pts]

  • Heavy Support [28 PL, 508pts]
    • Chaos Predator [9 PL, 135pts]

      Selections: Havoc launcher [5pts], No Chaos Mark, Predator autocannon [40pts]

    • Havocs [7 PL, 135pts]

      Selections: Mark of Slaanesh

      • Aspiring Champion [17pts]

        Selections: Boltgun, Chainsword

      • 2x Havoc w/ autocannon [54pts]

        Selections: 2x Autocannon [20pts], 2x Frag & Krak grenades

      • 2x Havoc w/ lascannon [64pts]

        Selections: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Lascannon [30pts]

    • Hellforged Scorpius [12 PL, 238pts]

      Selections: Combi-bolter [3pts], Mark of Slaanesh, Scorpius multi-launcher [40pts]

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Edited August 19, 2020 by Squike

[Brom MKIV]

Honestly brother I can't hardly read this list. I suggest simplifying the format and you'll get more comments.

 

From what I can tell I feel you have too much invested in csm troops, redundant hq and chosen. This is where your rhino can come from but I would also suggest getting the army some more threats whether VCs or something else. Also just go full Las on those havocs. The ACs just won't do what you want.. They're too non committal.

 

Look forward to seeing your updated list.

Honestly brother I can't even read this list. I suggest simplifying the format and you'll get more comments.

 

From what I can tell I feel you too much invested in csm troops, redundant hq and chosen. This is where your rhino can come from but its would also suggest getting the army some more threats whether VCs OR something else. Also just go full Las on those havocs. The ACs just won't do what you want.. They're too non committal.

 

Look forward to seeing your updated list.

Edited August 10, 2020 by Brom MKIV

[Squike]

Il try and sort the formatting out when I’m not on my phone,

 

Unfortunately I’m playing with what I have, so the havoc situation won’t change until I can get another box.

 

There are 2 VC’s in the list already, I would like a disco lord In there as well but I don’t have one yet, and I think they are a bit too expensive points wise right now.

 

Which HQ’s do you think are redundant?

 

I was thinking chosen as a reserve come on near an objective kill whatever is on it and try and hold out for the rest of the battle round, plus I just converted up some new ones so would like to get some use out of them.

 

I do feel the new points costing makes list building quite tight, but it’s something I have to get used to I guess

[Brom MKIV]

No problem I'm on a phone too. For some reason this thread doesn't show up in mobile version.

 

Anyway I missed the 2nd VC so that's feels much better now.

 

On the list in general..

Here's why I say some of the HQs is redundancy: The chosen could be RC and the lord is not needed. Or else swap the RC units into AL which is what I would do and then the RC detachment is. You don't gain the extra cp but don't pay any for the second detachment either and units of 5 won't likely stick around to bring back. And then is it worth the cp for 5 models? If going that route I'd make them larger.

The DP is cool for adv + charge but imo too costly now especially without any psych. If he's was a psyker then the second sorc is expendable. IDK maybe try and see but I feel Tsons and DG are the only DP worth it's salt now.

So in short a single detachment does what you want more efficiently with less hq (prince could fill the roll of sorc and lord) and frees up pts for more units.. Just considering the constraints of the latest changes. Sucks because I used to run 5 hq including more for funsies but now 2-3. If you do keep the alpha lord consider terminator with vipers bite.

 

Troops seem much better with the spoilers. For now I wouldn't invest beyond minimum. Those pts could go towards something more threatening including another chosen. On that note I like your chosen build. But I feel that type of unit shines best when you have higher threat saturation which is what I'm getting at here overall. It's a solid build and will look cool and perform decently but better with higher density of threats to attract attention away.

 

Anyway just some friendly ideas. Good luck!

Edited August 16, 2020 by Brom MKIV

[Squike]

Yeah I think it’s because for some reason the text was white, so for men the phone the background is white also...

 

I think I would move everything into AL if I was going to drop a detachment, as the RC A+C is only useful on the DP. The DP model itself is an old metal bloodthirster, so only really fits Khorne... I also agree they are probably too costly now. But he is some handy AT output.

 

so rolling stuff into AL then I would probably drop both RC HQ’s as the sorc is mainly to buff the DP. 
so with a spare 310pts i could double up with the chosen and get a rhino for them, although it would mean I have to make more chosen up.

or I have a heldrake that I could use and then 150ish points to play with. Maybe another havoc unit?

 

althought just looking at this I would then not have the HS slots available for everything so would still have to take a second detachment.

 

also with marines going to 2w in the future I like the chosen look, but with there points going up more not sure if it’s worth it. Plus il have to make another 10 models haha

Edited August 20, 2020 by Squike