Are you painting Indomitus Master and Lt green or white

[JJD]

As the title says what colour are you painting the Master and Lt from Indomitus.

 

They both look to be wearing Bladeguard armour. If Bladeguard are DW only then that suggests the Master and Lt have served in the DW.

 

Currently a company master wears green power armour but keeps his Terminator armour bone white to show he has served in the DW.

 

So if you keep your DW armour bone white when you are promoted back to the other companies would the master and Lt keep their Bladeguard armour white as that is their DW armour or return to green as it is power armour.

 

White feels right me but I can see an argument both ways.

 

Or will you take option c and sit on the fence to wait to see if they get the DW key word

Edited August 1, 2020 by JJD

[Herbington]

Green. I think.

 

I'm tempted to do the Bladeguard green too though.

[Inquisitor Eisenhorn]

Green. I think.

 

I'm tempted to do the Bladeguard green too though.

I simply CANNOT decide between bone and green for them either.

[Berzul]

I imagine that green would be the way to go.

 

After all, the Bladeguard Master would have to be from a company from the 3rd on downwards. Never the 1st, unless Belial now decides to cross the Rubicon Primaris and start using said armor (or a new master of the Deathwing is promoted to replace him, from the lines of the Primaris, for whatever reason).

 

A master in that position would still use green as his color when on a suit of armor other than the TDA.

[Sandalphon]

If you're torn you can always start an angels of redemption force and have half of each ;)

[Chaplain Lucifer]

Option C is the best.

[Fierce Bear]

I was thinking to reference the 30k DW and the companions... so these veteran Intercessors whom have undoubtedly taken there share of battlefield hits and been deemed worthy of knowledge of the fallen but can't wear full TDA, get there own 'livery' referencing there time in each of the 'wings' but also there veteran and experienced status..

 

That way I can maintain the traditional DW asthetic but allow the 'bladeguard' (not sure that's what the DA would call them that?) but also make these Brothers unique...

 

Don't know if that gives you some more ideas in the melting pot perhaps JJD?

Edited August 2, 2020 by Fierce Bear

[JJD]

To be honest I am leaning towards bone to indicate time in the DW. DA Captains used to paint Power armour white but that change with the all TDA lore change. Now white power armour exists again I think that’s the way to go.

 

In reality now that we have seen the new units that will clearly fit with the RW I am much more excited about them. Much better than shoe horning vanguard on foot into the RW in a white dwarf article. That hurt my soul.

 

I can’t wait to see the leaked speeder and any options on the ATV.

Edited August 2, 2020 by JJD

[G8Keeper]

For the moment I'm waiting on the fluff. I have plenty to be getting in with and don't feel the need to rush them into my army straight away. I even contemplated painting them as Blood Angels but as usual my DA collection won out.

[Master Sheol]

I am waiting

I am decorating the models with DA bits but i will wait to paint them

The Lieutenant is shown in one photo in DW colors and considering the transfer sheet in indomitus there is 5 DW badges (3 bladegaurds, 1 bladeguard ancent, 1 lieutenant) probably the master is a company master of a battle/reserve company

 

In my hobby project there is a DA company full of fistborn (3rd) one comapny of vintage metal miniatures (4th) e one company of primaris only (5th the comapny of Master Lazarus that is a primaris) so the Indomitus Master can be for me or Lazarus with a different loadout (i have also the Gravis Captain from Dark imperium painted in 5th company colors to act like Lazarus with a different loadout) or a DW Master second in command to Belial (Belial is a Grand Master so maybe he has one or more masters under him to help him run the DW)

 

I hope that new fluff will help us to determine wich role the "bladeguard" Master and Lieutentant will have in the DA chapter until then i will wait

 

I am waiting to put together and paint ALL miniatures from indomitus cause i want to be 100% sure with the codex SM on hands in october what will be the options avalable to all the units so i can decide the miniatures to modify (this is why i am putting together only the Lieutenant, the master the chaplain and the judiciar for now cause i think they will keep the loadout they hav in indomitus)

Edited August 2, 2020 by Master Sheol

[UtariOnzo]

I’m also holding out till the DA supplement actually hits. It’d be nice to know Deathwing have access to Lts, but honestly I want a deepstriking option (with or without TDA as it may be) to accompany my terminator squads

[Malakye]

Im going 30k colours for my new found melee Dark Angels, I've got about 20 years of Dark Angel's bitz that I've been playing with on the box set, I've dubbed them my "Knight Wing"

[Skywrath]

Definitely white for mine, well when I get around to them.

[WrathOfTheLion]

Waiting.

 

The captain is neither, I think he will be painted as a Guardians of the Covenant captain.

 

LT waiting for more info, but want to paint bone white.

 

To add though, if you count the transfers, there are 5. 3 for the bladeguard veterans, 1 for the ancient and 1 leftover for the LT presumably.

 

Fine with both though as you said with being sent back to lead a company.

Edited August 2, 2020 by WrathOfTheLion

[JJD]

The 5 DW transfers actually seems quite a compelling argument for the LT being DW but the company master changing back to green when he was promoted out of the Bladeguard.

 

To be honest I don’t know how much play either of them will get as Azrael, Sammay and the Talonmaster are my go HQs and I can see Chaplains getting a lot of use out of Stoic precision.

[Master Sheol]

The 5 DW transfers actually seems quite a compelling argument for the LT being DW but the company master changing back to green when he was promoted out of the Bladeguard.

 

To be honest I don’t know how much play either of them will get as Azrael, Sammay and the Talonmaster are my go HQs and I can see Chaplains getting a lot of use out of Stoic precision.

Yes the idea i have is that the Primaris part of the DW is the Bladeguard and they go up the ranks like this

Bladeguard veteran

Bladeguard sergeant

Bladeguard ancient

Bladeguard lieutenant

Master

 

It looks like that when the DW Bladeguard lieutenant is promoted to Master he take a green armour and goes to lead one reserve/battle company

 

So probably the master will be green and lieutenant could be green (promoted comapny veteran) or bonewhite (promoted DW Bladeguard)

[Angel of Solitude]

My thinking is that the Deathwing doesn't normally have lieutenants for two reasons: (1) they don't tend to deploy in large enough numbers as a single company to warrant an additional layer of command; and (2) Deathwing Knights currently exist to provide the progression opportunity through to being Company Master.

 

Another thing to bear in mind is that the Indomitus Master / Lieutenant do not have the BLADEGUARD keyword, so are essentially regular Company Masters / Lieutenants. I expect that GW may link the DEATHWING and BLADEGUARD keywords together for Dark Angels.

 

For these reasons, my Bladeguard Veterans and Ancient will be painted bone, while the Master/Lt will be painted in green. I think my Lt may join Lazarus in the 4th Company, and I'll need to decide which company the Indomitus Master will lead.

[Grimdarkness]

Black.

 

Only 30 suite's of terminator armour was every painted white in my head canon.

[jbaeza94]

They wont bear the color scheme of my first company (bronze/silver shoulder). They will be veterans in lore.

 

My first company will remain terminators and bikes (old and new marines). Im still waiting on gravis vets for my chapters lore

[Master Sheol]

They wont bear the color scheme of my first company (bronze/silver shoulder). They will be veterans in lore.

 

My first company will remain terminators and bikes (old and new marines). Im still waiting on gravis vets for my chapters lore

Do You Know that Gravis is not TDA but a variant if a PA?

So if you accept in 1st company gravis Marines you should accept also phpbosarones cause they are PA too :D

Primaris TDA equivalent is still have to be released by GW

[WrathOfTheLion]

I much rather the bladeguard - at the very least they aren't duplicated across the greenwing as I see. If they're going to stick PA folks in the DW, I much prefer that than Gravis, which is just bulked up line infantry.

So I'll be adding them to my DW - the LT, the veterans and the ancient.

Edited August 8, 2020 by WrathOfTheLion

[Master Sheol]

I much rather the bladeguard - at the very least they aren't duplicated across the greenwing as I see. If they're going to stick PA folks in the DW, I much prefer that than Gravis, which is just bulked up line infantry.

 

So I'll be adding them to my DW - the LT, the veterans and the ancient.

I am just waiting the codex SM anf supplement DA to see the options for those units and see how to build them and then i will paint all of them in the appropriate company colours Edited August 8, 2020 by Master Sheol

[jbaeza94]

 

They wont bear the color scheme of my first company (bronze/silver shoulder). They will be veterans in lore.

 

My first company will remain terminators and bikes (old and new marines). Im still waiting on gravis vets for my chapters lore

Do You Know that Gravis is not TDA but a variant if a PA?

So if you accept in 1st company gravis Marines you should accept also phpbosarones cause they are PA too :D

Primaris TDA equivalent is still have to be released by GW

Yeah i know, but its the "heavy" variant we have atm. Even before blade guard, my primaris first company wore gravis because they operated alongside actual terminators and were expected to fulfil similar actions in mixed squads (they werent mass indoctrinated into the 1st, ones and twos would come in as needed, so process is slow). In lore for my chapter, there do exist deathwing knight analogs in gravis. When a true terminator equivalent comes out, or just heavy melee specialist, a retcon will happen to replace gravis with whatever the new stuff is. For now, its what i got for heavy armor.

 

Same with my rw, they used to just ride in speeders, but now theu have bikes and quads, so their lore wiññ expand to reflect that

[jaxom]

Tentatively... black. My space marines are currently pretty far down the painting line, but I keep waffling back and forth between going 30k colors, continuing my Lightbringers, or hopping on a new idea I had about a "What If" scenario (Angron lands on Olympia).