Ahistorian Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I suppose the title says it all. I've looked through the Resources, and I feel like there must be some way to combine black undercoat, Citadel Dry paints and Nuln Oil/Black Templar for a quick but effective finish. In previous experiments, I've found Black Templar dries quite grey over white, so I was thinking of maybe wetbrushing another colour (probably green) over a black undercoat and then giving it a couple of coats of Nuln Oil - one before the other details, and one after, to help tie the model together. Or I could do a single coat of Black Templar and an Agrax coat to tie the model together/shade other details, but that will limit my ability to make repairs on the fly if I'm messy with other stages. So I turn to you all, because black-drybrush-black wash is probably the simplest of simple solutions, and I ask: how do you all quickly smash through your Templars these days? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I normally use chaos black and then 70% of the model with wraith bone and just for forshadowing a bit (about 10%) white spray. Then I use (of course) Black Templar. The edges are highlited by a mix of fenris grey and a bit of grey mix although for the most models this step comes after I´ve painted the other models. shoulder pad grey and then white. And after this all tiny details... Ahistorian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Dark grey undercoat. Light grey drybrush highlight. Black wash. Gloss varnish. Black wash. Mid grey highlight. Fix mistakes with dark grey touch up followed by black wash and grey highlight. You can skip the varnish mid stage and grey highlight and still get a great product. Care to not go too bright on the drybrush step or too heavy with highlights so the armor reads as black. Edited August 2, 2020 by tychobi Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 These are all nice recipes, but more involved than I like to use for troops (although I am keeping them in mind for characters). I'm not used to painting 28mm armies any more - I rarely even do a killteam's worth, so I'm hoping to mine a method that involves a max of one spray coat and two brush coats. Mea culpa if that seems lazy, but between work & ill-health I rarely have the energy to paint more than 2 hours a week these days.Off-topic: Six years ago I was knocking out over 1000 figures a year, last year it was 200 (a three-fold increase on the year before). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Leadbelcher spray, Black Templar contrast, highlight boltgun metal then mithril silver. I haven't been drybrushing the highlights but I guess they would work (probably better than my shaky hands...). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. Marshal_von_Speer and Ahistorian 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. I think we may have a winner here, that guide looks right up my alley. Has anyone tried using other colours between the black undercoat and the Dawnstone highlight to give some tonal depth to the armour? As an example, this apothecary's armour is worked up from browns and greens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_von_Speer Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. After quite some time testing and trying I also came up with this method. Although I replaced Eshin Grey with Dawnstone all together - decent results with little effort! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Unfortunately, I don't paint any of my minis quickly. =( Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. After quite some time testing and trying I also came up with this method. Although I replaced Eshin Grey with Dawnstone all together - decent results with little effort! Good to hear it works for other people too! Was it the first "wider" drybrush or the second "sharper" one you got rid of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5576953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wolfhart Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 I go with chaos black spray and a quick and dirty highlight with an about 60-40 mix of abaddon black and Mechanicus Standard Grey. This is done in a bit more than ten minuts with broad strokes and some really thin paint, so it doesn't cover too much. If i feel fancy i consecutively mix the paint with lighter grey to get more levels of shading, but that's usually reserved for characters on rainy sundays. Then i block out all colours, like shoulder pads, guns holsters, metal bits and stuff. Next i highlight details in the respective color. Then i edge highlight black armor with administratum grey. Clean up, shade with nuln oil on armor/ metal, seraphim sepia on scroll and gold, agrax on white cloth. Maybe go over the shade if it came off too stark. Takes me a good 2 hours for an Intercessor model and i like the results. Once i got a chunk of the Indomitus box painted i will update my crusade thread and add some pics if you're interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5577461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Ach, 2 hours per model is way too long for me... I try to keep it dosn to 30-45 minutes! But I definitely look forward toyour plog update! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5577493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_von_Speer Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. After quite some time testing and trying I also came up with this method. Although I replaced Eshin Grey with Dawnstone all together - decent results with little effort! Good to hear it works for other people too! Was it the first "wider" drybrush or the second "sharper" one you got rid of? It was the first drybrush I got rid off. I found that the Nuln Oil shade damped the Eshin Grey too much. Depending on how much time I spend on Details, I manage to paint aprox 1 model per hour (batch painting). I would gladly send you a picture, unfortunately my phones camera ist trash. Ahistorian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5577740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Something I tried doing recently is drybrush eshin grey then fine detail edge highlight the edges that catch the most light with dawnstone. It's better than my previous method which is edge highlight for both, which takes a long time but I like how it looks haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5577957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritn Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. I think we may have a winner here, that guide looks right up my alley. Has anyone tried using other colours between the black undercoat and the Dawnstone highlight to give some tonal depth to the armour? As an example, this apothecary's armour is worked up from browns and greens.I painted a test model using Mechanicus Standard Grey and Fenrisian Grey instead. Turned out really nice, but I don't know if it's better than the linked tutorial. I'll give that a try as well. Edited August 4, 2020 by Maritn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5578009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Undercoat black, drybrush light grey instead of edge highlighting, then hit the whole thing with a coat of nuln oil to knock the highlights back a little. If you want to be fancy, you can do two stages of drybrushing. This tutorial shows how it looks at each step. This is the best method I know for quickly painting black armor that still looks decent. After quite some time testing and trying I also came up with this method. Although I replaced Eshin Grey with Dawnstone all together - decent results with little effort! Good to hear it works for other people too! Was it the first "wider" drybrush or the second "sharper" one you got rid of? It was the first drybrush I got rid off. I found that the Nuln Oil shade damped the Eshin Grey too much. Depending on how much time I spend on Details, I manage to paint aprox 1 model per hour (batch painting). I would gladly send you a picture, unfortunately my phones camera ist trash. That makes sense, and sounds like I could smash through it in decent time. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5578140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 You could be more adventurous and use darker greys + bone/ creams as highlights with a combination of black washes/ blue glazes on the cream/ bone highlights. I prefer dark reaper highlights on blacks, much better to use blues/green blues highlighting black than grey IMO. Ahistorian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5578159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I did chaos black spray, then dry brushed dawnstone, then washed it in Nuln oil for my custodes. I don't have pictures, but it came out good and took a quarter of the time that my BL did. It should work for BT too. Ahistorian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365621-how-do-you-all-quickly-paint-your-templars-these-days/#findComment-5578164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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