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So after my first couple of games of 9th, this is what I've come up with. A fully mechanised force with armoured and artillery support.

 

Long post with detailed plan for each unit incoming. :P

 

I've found that Chimeras are pretty nice to keep your infantry safe while pushing forward while your opponents don't really want to devote a lot of firepower to them. They don't do much damage, they only give up limited points for bring it down and when you kill them an obsec unit spills out to take your objective. So I'm bringing a lot of them.

 

The main idea of this list is to take board control and never give it up. The tanks and Manticore are the heavy hitters, but killing loads of stuff has seemed less of a priority so far than sitting on the middle objectives. So, plan in detail:

 

Company Commander: orders, Kurov's Aquila...stay with a group of units sitting a bit further back.

 

Demolisher TCs: push up behind the Sentinels, throw out siege shells and shout "Look at me!" Use Strike&Shroud turn 1 and buff with Psykers.

 

6 infantry squads in Chimeras: push up 3-4 turn 1, potentially advance and pop smoke. Keep 2-3 back to raise banners a bit on home objectives and act as second wave. Disembark as needed, but ideally you don't want your infantry out until mid-game. I went with Meltaguns over Plasma as these should never have to engage at long range until the opponent is pretty much tabled. Also, the threat of D6 damage will worry your opponent, even if it's just one shot at BS4+. The Vox Casters add flexibility, I have found them very useful again in 9th.

 

Astropaths/Platoon Commanders: extra support...should be obvious. :P

 

Scout Sentinels: scout-move onto one mid-objective pre-turn 1. As those are max 12" away from your deployment zone you are pretty much guaranteed to have them in range. So even before T1 you get an advantage and force your opponent to react. Pop smoke if no enemies are in range.

 

The Armoured Sentinels provide deepstrike denial/home objective holding late game.

 

Manticores: big baddaboom.

 

The Inquisitor provides more psychic support and some shenanigans with Telethesia. The relic is interchangeable depending on who I fight.

 

Plenty of CP, you can outflank a Chimera with a squad for 1cp which adds more flexibility. The custom doctrine doesn't benefit infantry directly, but the repairs will keep the Chimeras in the field longer and force overkill on the vehicles. Gunnery Experts benefits all the vehicles too, makes even the scout sentinels annoying unless actual guns are out on them.

 

The list makes thin their ranks and bring it down auto-picks for the opponent, but I have yet to come up with a mixed guard list where that's not the case. I think those two secondaries will just be our fate. It helps a bit that the Sentinels and Chimeras will only give up two points, so the opponent has to kill a lot of tanks.

 

Secondary picks for this list would be board-control based. Engage on all Fronts, Raise the Banners should be solid picks. There's a good amount is psychic, so Mental Interrogation might not be terrible if the opponent has a lot of characters.

 

Flexibility would be in the Meltaguns, the Inquisitor and the Lascannons on the TCs...could free 105p to use on other stuff.

 

My main problem is that I only own 2 Chimeras currently...I may have to expand that. I do love that this feels like a strong 9th list but also veeeery fluffy. :D

 

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

Battle Size: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

 

Detachment CP

 

Regimental Doctrine: Astra Millitarum, Gunnery Experts, Jury-rigged Repairs

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Tank Ace

 

+ Agents of the Imperium +

 

Inquisitor: 3) Dominate, 6) Castigation, Blackshroud, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades, Malleus - Psychic Mastery, Ordo Malleus, Power sword, Stratagem: Inquisitorial Mandate

. Psyker: Smite

 

+ HQ +

 

Company Commander: Chainsword, Frag grenades, Laspistol, Relic: Kurov's Aquila, Warlord

 

Tank Commander: Lascannon, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

 

Tank Commander: Lascannon, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

 

+ Troops +

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

Infantry Squad

. 7x Guardsman: 7x Lasgun

. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

 

+ Elites +

 

Astropath: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

 

Astropath: Laspistol, Nightshroud

 

Astropath: Laspistol, Psychic Maelstrom

 

Platoon Commander: Chainsword, Frag grenades, Shotgun

 

Platoon Commander: Chainsword, Frag grenades, Shotgun

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Armoured Sentinels

. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon

 

Armoured Sentinels

. Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon

 

Scout Sentinels

. Scout Sentinel: Heavy Flamer

. Scout Sentinel: Heavy Flamer

. Scout Sentinel: Heavy Flamer

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Manticore: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (HS), 4x Storm Eagle Rockets

 

Manticore: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (HS), 4x Storm Eagle Rockets

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

Chimera: Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Chimera)

 

++ Total: [121 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++

Edited by sairence
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I don't have any personal experience with playing Guard but I like the look of your list and it's apparent you've put some thought into what the priorities are in 9th in terms of objectives and such. If you ever get to play this list, please let us know how it goes. :tu:

So I played a friend's Harlequins yesterday...and got entirely destroyed. :D

 

He played a very strong list well suited to taking on armour, but that's just kinda the entire Harlequin roster. 3 squads of haywire bikes, 5 troupes in starweavers, 3 full with fusion pistols, some death jesters, a solitaire and one or two troupe masters.

 

We finished the game after T3 as I had very little left. The points were still pretty even at that point and the list did manage what I wanted it to. I went first and was in all 4 table quarters at the end of my movement phase.

 

The main problem was that pretty much everything was -1 to hit, which neutered my manticores and that he was so mobile that there was no way zone him out. All the fusion also had me keep my tank commanders back for a counterpunch, which didn't do much. D6 damage is pretty meaningless if your opponent has 3++/4++ on everything. He was free to move around and engage whereever I was set up to score points. I also was a bit overzealous with pushing forward, which allows him to take out my Inquisitor and an astropath pretty much right away. So I need to get a bit better at figuring out what to push forward quickly and what to keep back/disembark early. Also, the third secondary is still something I'm unsure about. Took mental interrogation this time and that was a complete dud. Between losing two Psykers and him able to deny the action I got nothing for that.

 

Overall...I could see how this list can shine in 9th and I'll definitely keep playing it. Might drop the Meltas and change the Inquisitor to Coteaz. Against pretty much any other army I'm pretty sure this list would present a huge problem. That I was able to keep up on points for several turns even though he had basically maxed out a secondary by turn 2 (Assassinate) was good.

 

But Harlequins hard-counter most things it is meant to do and I have a feeling they are going to be very good army in 9th in general.

 

So in summary...it was a thrashing, but not in a bad way. )

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