Aztek Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) So I've been having some trouble cracking up AV 14 in my recent games and this is my attempt at an Anti heavy armor Terror assault list. Any advice is welcome! 8-5 Event Practice 3000 Night Lords 3,000 Legiones Astartes HQ Siege Breaker (Mournival Event Character)- 250 Consul: Siege Breaker; Psyker (Mastery Level 1); nuncio–vox; 3 × phosphex bomb; artificer armour; thunder hammer; Phoenix power spear; pair of lightning claws; frag grenades; krak grenades; Trophies of Judgement; jump pack Praevian 85 Consul: Praevian; cortex controller; cortex designator; power armour; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Legion Support Officer; Master of Cybernetica; Legion Inductees •2 Castellax Class Battle–automata Tank Hunters; 2 × Darkfire cannon; 4 × boltgun; 2 × shock chargers; atomantic shielding; enhanced targeting array Monstrous Creature; Cybernetica Cortex; Reactor Blast; Rage Troops 860 10 Terror Squad Executioners 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 10 Terror Squad Executioners 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes •Drop Pod 35 twin–linked bolter Vehicle (Open–topped, Transport); Drop Pod Assault; Immobile; Inertial Guidance System 10 Terror Squad Executioners 275 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes Elites 420 Apothecarion Detachment •Apothecary power armour; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades; narthecium; jump pack Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought smoke launchers; searchlight; 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons Vehicle (Walker); Atomantic Shielding; Helical Targeting Array Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought smoke launchers; searchlight; 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons Vehicle (Walker); Atomantic Shielding; Helical Targeting Array Fast Attack 715 Primaris–Lightning Strike Fighter chaff launcher; hull–mounted twin–linked lascannon; armoured cockpit; 2 × 2 wing–mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground–tracking auguries Vehicle (Flyer); Agile; Deep Strike; Supersonic 14 Night Raptors 485 13 Night Raptors 13 Night Raptors; power armour; bolt pistols; 2 × power weapon; 11 × Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; jump packs Jump Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught 1 Huntmaster artificer armour; power weapon; frag and krak grenades; melta bombs Jump Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught Heavy Support 390 Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron •Vindicator 130 hull–mounted laser destroyer array; pintle–mounted combi–bolter; searchlight; smoke launchers Vehicle (Tank); Power Capacitor (laser destroyer array only) •Vindicator 130 hull–mounted laser destroyer array; pintle–mounted combi–bolter; searchlight; smoke launchers Vehicle (Tank); Power Capacitor (laser destroyer array only) •Vindicator 130 hull–mounted laser destroyer array; pintle–mounted combi–bolter; searchlight; smoke launchers Vehicle (Tank); Power Capacitor (laser destroyer array only) Other Legiones Astartes Night Lords; Traitor Force Organisation Chart Crusade Edited August 9, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I'll be honest, I think you should edit your list. There is a lot of unecessary information that makes it fairly illedgible. Besides there is almost certainly something wrong with night lords siege master that is also a psyker and has a phoenix power spear... Also there is no Master of the Legion and terror assault limits you to a single consul. But sure, if you take Terror assault you need every bit of Anti tank fire you can find. So mortis, lightning, praevian are very much in order. A large squadron of Vindicator is interesting though, I haven't thought about it. You probably already have heard that so many chainglaives on raptors are not exactly cost effective. I understand you are adamant on it anyway. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 I'll be honest, I think you should edit your list. There is a lot of unecessary information that makes it fairly illedgible. Besides there is almost certainly something wrong with night lords siege master that is also a psyker and has a phoenix power spear... Also there is no Master of the Legion and terror assault limits you to a single consul. But sure, if you take Terror assault you need every bit of Anti tank fire you can find. So mortis, lightning, praevian are very much in order. A large squadron of Vindicator is interesting though, I haven't thought about it. You probably already have heard that so many chainglaives on raptors are not exactly cost effective. I understand you are adamant on it anyway. Sorry I should've mentioned in the post that the Siegebreaker is a Mournival Event character. I just slapped him with enough gear to get him up to the correct points. He has Master of the Legion. And since I gave him Master of the Legion he doesn't count as a consul for the 1 limit on Terror Assault. Yeah I'm beyond hope when it comes to the Chainglaives! lol I'll edit it and try it make it more legible? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Consider giving a squadron command tank to the vindicators. Youll gain tank- and monsterhunter so you should be able to pen a sicaran/lr somewhat more reliably. Or go the gravcannon rapier route Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Consider giving a squadron command tank to the vindicators. Youll gain tank- and monsterhunter so you should be able to pen a sicaran/lr somewhat more reliably. Or go the gravcannon rapier route It's only within 24 inches though. Do you find what you're shooting at with your Vindicators is often within that range? If so, I'll definitely put it on. What's the Gravcannon rapier route? Sorry still relatively new. Thanks Marshall! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorpion Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 What's the Gravcannon rapier route? Literally some bigass grav-guns mounted on the tiny rapier carrier, like the quad bolters and laser destroyers. Mostly used in Zone Mortalis games, and dropped in pods as Anti-Armor in Orbital Assault lists. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) So for my regular vindicators everything they shoot at is ranged 24'' or below or they wouldnt be able to shoot at it. But they are a much more mobile unit. I didnt actually realize the the target had to be within 24'' for the command tank buff to work. In that case you can propably skip on it. You dont want things to be close to your lasdestroyer vindicators and they should remain stationary You can mount laser destroyers or grav cannons on rapiers. They are basicly stationary guns. Range is 36'' tho so a bit lacking and can be bound in melee. Edited August 9, 2020 by Marshal Vespasian Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) i wholeheartedly suggest Rapiers with Laser Destroyers. It's twin linked and Ordnance, thus very reliable. Not a Spartan killer, though, but it brings a lot of pain to even AV13 and sometimes 14 with its Ap1. I personally don't like Grav cannon on rapiers, too expensive for my taste. If you were to grab some grav, then I'd likely replace one mortis with melee cortus with grav guns. Tried and tested, offers similar firepower to 2 rapiers with grav (smaller range but you are a Cortus, you prefer being closer; and small blast is not a such a big deal when you are targeting large vehicles). And it doubles up as an absolute monster in close combat. Edited August 9, 2020 by Lautrec the Embraced Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) i wholeheartedly suggest Rapiers with Laser Destroyers. It's twin linked and Ordnance, thus very reliable. Not a Spartan killer, though, but it brings a lot of pain to even AV13 and sometimes 14 with its Ap1. I personally don't like Grav cannon on rapiers, too expensive for my taste. If you were to grab some grav, then I'd likely replace one mortis with melee cortus with grav guns. Tried and tested, offers similar firepower to 2 rapiers with grav (smaller range but you are a Cortus, you prefer being closer; and small blast is not a such a big deal when you are targeting large vehicles). And it doubles up as an absolute monster in close combat. Spartan killing is unfortunately what I need in HS slot I think. What do ya'll think of this list? ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] ++ + HQ [625pts] + Praevian [375pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, On Foot . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Consul [315pts] . . Praevian [315pts]: Cortex Controller, Support Officer . . . Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple [280pts]: Cybernetica Cortex, Enhanced Targeting Arrays [30pts], Support Unit . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata [125pts]: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon [20pts], Stock Chargers . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata [125pts]: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon [20pts], Stock Chargers . . . . Legion Inductees: Tank Hunters Siege Breaker [250pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], On Foot, 3x Phosphex Bombs [30pts], Power Armour (Centurion/Consul), Refractor Field [10pts], Trophies of Judgement [5pts], Volkite Charger [10pts] . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Consul [45pts]: Siege Breaker [45pts] + Elites [240pts] + Apothecarion Detachment [60pts]: Legiones Astartes . Apothecary, Legion [60pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Pack [15pts], Narthecium, Power Armour . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [180pts]: Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon x 2 [25pts], Searchlight and Smoke Launchers + Troops [860pts] + Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts] . Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts] Terror Squad [310pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts] . Drop Pod, Legion [35pts]: Twin-linked Bolter . Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts] Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts] . Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts] + Fast Attack [655pts] + Night Raptor Squad [425pts]: Legiones Astartes, 11x Night Raptor [220pts], 9x Nostraman Chainglaive [90pts], 2x Power Axe [20pts] . Huntmaster [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Power Axe [10pts] Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [230pts]: 2x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles [70pts], Battle Servitor Control [15pts], Ground-tracking Auguries [10pts], Twin-linked Lascannon + Heavy Support [620pts] + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [620pts] . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [310pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts] . . Leviathan Siege Claw: In-built Meltagun . . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [310pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts] . . Leviathan Siege Claw: In-built Meltagun . . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, Traitor Rite of War: Terror Assault There's no delivery system for the 2 Leviathans but they have 4 HP's each and armored Ceramite. Better or worse than the squadron of 3 Vindicators for killing AV14 you think? Edited August 9, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I love Leviathans but taking them just to target spartan in cc seems wasteful to me. I know they can handle all sort of target but in theory, killing Spartan in melee is not *that* hard. You don't need 600 pts of biggest, baddest boys we have. 3-4 termis with chainfists will make quick work of any tank. And you really need firepower in Terror Assault. So for me, 2 melee Levs, footslogging across the board is a big no. They will be effectively fire magnets for 2 turns straight before they have a chance to act. I'd consider droping 1 or giving them, alongside a single claw/drill, Storm Cannon/Melta-smthing/Grav Bombard just to actually be useful before they close in. In truth, if you want to shoot Spartan down, conventional guns usually fail. Especially when you have 1 Heavy support slot available <<<angry night lords noises>>>. Seek consolation in melee or in the warm embrace of haywire grav or penetrator missiles. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 What about this one? Basically the same basic list but using a Kharibdyss with 10 Terminators as the HS slot. 3,000 Legiones Astartes HQ Siege Breaker 250- Mournival Event character Consul: Siege Breaker; Psyker (Mastery Level 1); nuncio–vox; 3 × phosphex bomb; artificer armour; thunder hammer; Blade of Perdition; pair of lightning claws; frag grenades; krak grenades; boarding shield; Cyber–familiar Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Art of Destruction Praevian 85 Consul: Praevian; cortex controller; cortex designator; power armour; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Legion Support Officer; Master of Cybernetica; Legion Inductees •2 Castellax Class Battle–automata 280 Tank Hunters; 2 × Darkfire cannon; 4 × boltgun; 2 × shock chargers; atomantic shielding; enhanced targeting array Monstrous Creature; Cybernetica Cortex; Reactor Blast; Rage Troops 825 10 Terror Squad Executioners 275 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 10 Terror Squad Executioners 275 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 10 Terror Squad Executioners 275 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes Elites 680 Apothecarion Detachment •Apothecary 60 power armour; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades; narthecium; jump pack Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes 10 Terminators 435 9 Terminators; Terminator armour; 9 × combi–bolter; 9 × chainfist Infantry; Legiones Astartes; Implacable Advance 1 Terminator Sergeant combi–bolter; chainfist; grenade harness Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Implacable Advance Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought 185 smoke launchers; searchlight; 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons; extra armour Vehicle (Walker); Atomantic Shielding; Helical Targeting Array Fast Attack 645 12 Night Raptors 415 11 Night Raptors; power armour; bolt pistols; 2 × power weapon; 9 × Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; jump packs Jump Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught 1 Huntmaster artificer armour; frag and krak grenades; melta bombs Jump Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught Primaris–Lightning Strike Fighter 230 chaff launcher; hull–mounted twin–linked lascannon; armoured cockpit; 2 × 2 wing–mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground–tracking auguries Vehicle (Flyer); Agile; Deep Strike; Supersonic Heavy Support 235 Kharybdis Assault Claw 235 5 Kharybdis storm launchers; melta ram; frag assault launchers Vehicle (Flyer, Transport, Hover); Assault Vehicle; Drop Pod Assault; Inertial Guidance System; Independent Machine Spirits; Heat Blast Other Legiones Astartes Night Lords; Traitor Force Organisation Chart Crusade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) You could also drop in two cortusses with chainfist and dread CC as well as gravguns for what you are spending on termies / levis. I agree that footslogging melee dreads only works if there is enough other av 13 targets in your army to distract from them. If you want to go with the 10 termies in a kharybdis, which I think is cool, consider going down to three or 4 chainfists which will be enough and using the freed up points for two special weapons: plasma blastgun or reaper autocannon. If you can crack for example a rhino before charging it youll be better off. Or if you can make a dent in 2+ units before charging them. You could do something like this for almost the same points, increase the amount of chainfists to tase: ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [658pts] ++ + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [280pts] . Cortus Dreadnought: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion, Extra Armour . . Dreadnought Chainfist: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun Terminator Squad, Legion [378pts] . Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod: Frag Assault Launchers . Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Chainfist, Grenade Harness . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Chainfist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Power Fist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Power Fist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Plasma Blaster, Power Fist + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance Rite of War + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules ++ Total: [658pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe I would recommend a xiphon but it wont hurt av14 reliably. You could also take a sicaran venator for 280 pts but I fear it would just eat all the fire coming your way so propably dead turn 1. Edited August 10, 2020 by Marshal Vespasian Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Thinking about it some more, speeders are also an option: ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [648pts] ++ + Elites + Terminator Squad, Legion [393pts] . Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod: Frag Assault Launchers . Cataphractii Pattern Terminator Armour . Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Chainfist, Grenade Harness . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Chainfist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Chainfist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Chainfist . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Plasma Blaster + Fast Attack + Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron, Legion [255pts] . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Twin-linked Lascannon . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Twin-linked Lascannon . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Twin-linked Lascannon + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance Rite of War + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules ++ Total: [648pts] ++ Normal speeders with grav&multi melta will be cheaper of course but AV14 will propably have a ceramite shield so I'd not do that. The missiles because 6 chances to roll a 6 for a glance arent bad. Normally I'd do cyclone launchers on them but I feel the 3 laser shots are woth more to you. Cybot might be better after all Edit: I didnt realize you could teleport your terminators as well. Maybe do that its 15 points and you can increase.your squad size a bit or spend the points you gain from not having to buy a drop pod on rapiers for some more ranged AT. Being able to pop rhinos and av13 reliably wont hurt and lascannons do still glance and pen LRs from time to time Edited August 10, 2020 by Marshal Vespasian Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Thank you Marshall! Great advice! Hmm to be honest it feels like I'm being pulled in several different directions, but I can only expand my army in 1 direction at a time. If I posted all my Night Lord owned models in a list could you give me some advice as to where to go from here? So, been having trouble with AV14 so I'm looking to get a Lightning for sure and at least 1 contemptor I think with Kheres AA. Playing Terror Assault so I only have the 1 HS slot and a lot rides on what I put in it. So far I think the 3 Vindicators with Laser Destroyers is the best anti-AV14 on paper. I'm unfortunately locked into the loadout of combi-bolter and chain-fists on my terminators until the new Night Lord ones come out. My mistake when building them. Speeders are an interesting idea, just not sure it's enough to punch through what I want it to. Maybe in conjunction with the Vindictors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhynos Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Would be best to give us a rough idea on what you have at the moment, so we can make some suggestions based on that.Anything past the basic 3 Terror squads is up to personal preference.Though if you intend to build a list to deal with lots of armour, maybe Terror Assault isn't the best suited for the role. Only one Heavy support choice does limit choices, but doesn't mean there isn't other ways to get some Anti Tank in the list.Currently increasing my Terror Assault list up to 3000 points for an upcoming event (Hopefully) and this is a rough outline of what I'm planning to take:Praetor, Jump pack, Divining BladeChaplain, Jump packApothecary, Jump packVeteran squad in Rhino with Stalker for outflank (Fist, Meltaguns, Melta bombs and Multi melta)Deep striking Cataphractii Terminator squad, mix of Axes/Chainfists Combi plasma and Autocannon3x Terror Squads, Volkites, Chainglave and Melta bombLarge Assault Squad, Fist and Axes3x Javelins, Missiles, Melta and HK'sPrimaris Lightning, Kraken Missiles, usual upgradesDrop pod Leviathan, Melta and Drill Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5581927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] +++ HQ [345pts] +Legion Champion [150pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack [20pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Paragon Blade [20pts], Refractor Field [10pts]. Consul [35pts]: Champion, Legion [35pts]Praetor, Legion [195pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers [15pts], Iron Halo [25pts], Jump Pack [20pts], Master of the Legion, Melta Bombs [5pts], Thunder Hammer [25pts], Trophies of Judgement [5pts]+ Elites [430pts] +Apothecarion Detachment [60pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [60pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Pack [15pts], Narthecium, Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat BladesApothecarion Detachment [185pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [55pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Sword [10pts]. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Sword [10pts]Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [185pts]: Searchlight and Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 [30pts]+ Troops [825pts] +Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]+ Fast Attack [780pts] +Night Raptor Squad [515pts]: Legiones Astartes, 14x Night Raptor [280pts], 11x Nostraman Chainglaive [110pts], 3x Power Axe [30pts]. Huntmaster [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Power Axe [10pts]Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [265pts]: 3x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles [105pts], Battle Servitor Control [15pts], Ground-tracking Auguries [10pts], Twin-linked Lascannon+ Heavy Support [430pts] +Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [430pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts]. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [330pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Cyclonic Melta Lance [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts]. . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun+ Allegiance +Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, TraitorRite of War: Terror Assault+ Lords of War [190pts] +Sub-orbital Strike Wing [190pts]. Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]. . Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]: 2x Lascannon , wing mounted, Two Kraken penetrator heavy missiles [25pts]. Equip all flyers with Battle Sevitor Controls [15pts]+ Use Playtest Rules + Alright this is the list I'm looking to play this week. We'll see how it goes but I have decently high hopes. Any tips on how to play it and criticism? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Would be best to give us a rough idea on what you have at the moment, so we can make some suggestions based on that. Anything past the basic 3 Terror squads is up to personal preference. Though if you intend to build a list to deal with lots of armour, maybe Terror Assault isn't the best suited for the role. Only one Heavy support choice does limit choices, but doesn't mean there isn't other ways to get some Anti Tank in the list. Currently increasing my Terror Assault list up to 3000 points for an upcoming event (Hopefully) and this is a rough outline of what I'm planning to take: Praetor, Jump pack, Divining Blade Chaplain, Jump pack Apothecary, Jump pack Veteran squad in Rhino with Stalker for outflank (Fist, Meltaguns, Melta bombs and Multi melta) Deep striking Cataphractii Terminator squad, mix of Axes/Chainfists Combi plasma and Autocannon 3x Terror Squads, Volkites, Chainglave and Melta bomb Large Assault Squad, Fist and Axes 3x Javelins, Missiles, Melta and HK's Primaris Lightning, Kraken Missiles, usual upgrades Drop pod Leviathan, Melta and Drill All my Night Lords! Total Amount Of Night Lords 5,570 Legiones Astartes HQ 1,815 Praetor 210 Rite of War; artificer armour; bolt pistol; Paragon blade (master–crafted); frag grenades; krak grenades; melta bombs; digital lasers; iron halo; Trophies of Judgement; jump pack Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Master of the Legion; Independent Character 'Sevatar' power armour; iron halo; frag and krak grenades; master–crafted Nostraman chainglaive; bolt pistol; Master of the Atramentar; Trophies of Judgement Infantry (Character, Unique); Independent Character; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Master of the Legion; Dirty Fighter; Repressed Psyker; Precision Strikes; Warlord Trait (Master of Ambush) Siege Breaker 250 Consul: Siege Breaker; Psyker (Mastery Level 1); nuncio–vox; 3 × phosphex bomb; artificer armour; thunder hammer; thunder hammer (master–crafted); pair of lightning claws; frag grenades; krak grenades; melta bombs; refractor field Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Art of Destruction Praetor in Terminator armour 220 Terminator armour; combi–bolter; Paragon blade (master–crafted); digital lasers; iron halo; grenade harness; Trophies of Judgement; Deep Strike Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Master of the Legion; Independent Character Praetor artificer armour; bolt pistol; Paragon blade (master–crafted); frag grenades; krak grenades; melta bombs; digital lasers; iron halo; Trophies of Judgement; Scimitar Jetbike Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Master of the Legion; Independent Character Praetor in Terminator armour Rite of War; Terminator armour (Tartaros); combi–bolter; Paragon blade (master–crafted); digital lasers; iron halo; grenade harness; Trophies of Judgement; Deep Strike Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Master of the Legion; Independent Character Praevian Consul: Praevian; cortex controller; cortex designator; artificer armour; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Legion Support Officer; Master of Cybernetica; Legion Inductees •2 Castellax Class Battle–automata 280 2 × Darkfire cannon; 4 × boltgun; 2 × shock chargers; atomantic shielding; enhanced targeting array Monstrous Creature; Cybernetica Cortex; Reactor Blast; Rage Primus Medicae in Terminator armour 130 Consul: Primus Medicae; narthecium; needle pistol; Terminator armour; combi–bolter; power weapon (axe) Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Independent Character; Sacred Trust; Legion Support Officer Elites 1,625 10 Terror Squad Executioners 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 10 Terror Squad Executioners 275 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes •Drop Pod 35 twin–linked bolter Vehicle (Open–topped, Transport); Drop Pod Assault; Immobile; Inertial Guidance System 10 Terror Squad Executioners 9 Terror Squad Executioners; power armour; bolt pistols; chainswords; 9 × volkite charger; frag and krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 1 Headsman artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; volkite charger; melta bombs Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Fear; Infiltrate; Preferred Enemy (Infantry); Precision Strikes 10 Veteran Space Marines 9 Veteran Space Marines; power armour; 9 × bolter; 9 × bolt pistol; 9 × chainsword; frag grenades; krak grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes; Veteran Tactics; Implacable Advance 1 Veteran Sergeant power armour; combi–weapon; bolt pistol; chainsword; frag and krak grenades Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Veteran Tactics; Implacable Advance 10 Terminators 9 Terminators; Terminator armour (Tartaros); 9 × combi–bolter; 9 × chainfist; Deep Strike Infantry; Legiones Astartes; Implacable Advance 1 Terminator Sergeant Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Implacable Advance 5 Destroyers 4 Destroyers; power armour; 2 bolt pistols; missile launcher and suspensor web; chainswords; frag grenades; krak and rad grenades Infantry; Legiones Astartes; Hardened Armour; Counter–attack 1 Destroyer Sergeant artificer armour; 2 bolt pistols; thunder hammer; frag, krak and rad grenades Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes; Hardened Armour; Counter–attack Fast Attack 850 15 Night Raptors 14 Night Raptors; power armour; bolt pistols; 3 × power weapon; 11 × Nostraman chainglaive; 2 × meltagun; frag and krak grenades; jump packs Jump Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught 1 Huntmaster artificer armour; bolt pistol; power weapon; frag and krak grenades; melta bombs Jump Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught 8 Night Raptors 7 Night Raptors; power armour; bolt pistols; 7 × Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; jump packs Jump Infantry; Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught 1 Huntmaster artificer armour; bolt pistol; Nostraman chainglaive; frag and krak grenades; melta bombs Jump Infantry (Character); Legiones Astartes (Night Lords); Onslaught Heavy Support 845 Fire Raptor Gunship hull–mounted twin–linked Avenger bolt cannon; 2 × turret–mounted Reaper autocannon batteries; 4 wing–mounted Hellstrike missiles; machine spirit; extra armour Vehicle (Flyer, Hover); Deep Strike; Strafing Run; Independent Turret Fire Achilles–Alpha Land Raider hull–mounted quad launcher; 2 sponson–mounted twin–linked volkite culverins; searchlight; smoke launchers; extra armour; machine spirit Vehicle (Tank); Enhanced Ferromantic Rites; Galvanic Traction Drive Leviathan Pattern Siege Dreadnought Talon •Leviathan Pattern Siege Dreadnought 2 × Leviathan storm cannon; 2 × torso–mounted heavy flamer; smoke launchers; searchlight; frag grenades; extra armour; phosphex discharger Vehicle (Walker); Reinforced Atomantic Shielding; Crushing Charge; Dreadnought Talon; Move Through Cover Lords of War 435 Konrad Curze 435 The Nightmare Mantle; Mercy and Forgiveness; The Widowmakers; frag grenades Jump Infantry (Character); Primarch (Independent Character; Eternal Warrior; Fear; Adamantium Will; Fleet; Fearless; It Will Not Die; Master of the Legion; Precision Strikes; Precision Shots); Hit & Run; Sire of the Night Lords; The King of Terrors; Shrouded; Stealth; Bulky Lautrec the Embraced 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) I'm going to post 2 lists any chance ya'll could tell me which one you like more? Edited August 11, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] +++ HQ [345pts] +Legion Champion [150pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack [20pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Paragon Blade [20pts], Refractor Field [10pts]. Consul [35pts]: Champion, Legion [35pts]Praetor, Legion [195pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers [15pts], Iron Halo [25pts], Jump Pack [20pts], Master of the Legion, Melta Bombs [5pts], Thunder Hammer [25pts], Trophies of Judgement [5pts]+ Elites [430pts] +Apothecarion Detachment [60pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [60pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Pack [15pts], Narthecium, Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat BladesApothecarion Detachment [185pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [55pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Sword [10pts]. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Sword [10pts]Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [185pts]: Searchlight and Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 [30pts]+ Troops [825pts] +Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]+ Fast Attack [780pts] +Night Raptor Squad [515pts]: Legiones Astartes, 14x Night Raptor [280pts], 11x Nostraman Chainglaive [110pts], 3x Power Axe [30pts]. Huntmaster [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Power Axe [10pts]Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [265pts]: 3x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles [105pts], Battle Servitor Control [15pts], Ground-tracking Auguries [10pts], Twin-linked Lascannon+ Heavy Support [430pts] +Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [430pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts]. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [330pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Cyclonic Melta Lance [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts]. . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun+ Allegiance +Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, TraitorRite of War: Terror Assault+ Lords of War [190pts] +Sub-orbital Strike Wing [190pts]. Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]. . Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]: 2x Lascannon , wing mounted, Two Kraken penetrator heavy missiles [25pts]. Equip all flyers with Battle Sevitor Controls [15pts]+ Use Playtest Rules +Use Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 (From FAQ 1.1 Feb/2019): Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 On++ Total: [3,000pts] ++ Edited August 11, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] +++ HQ [195pts] +Praetor, Legion [195pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers [15pts], Iron Halo [25pts], Jump Pack [20pts], Master of the Legion, Melta Bombs [5pts], Thunder Hammer [25pts], Trophies of Judgement [5pts]+ Elites [435pts] +Apothecarion Detachment [60pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [60pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Pack [15pts], Narthecium, Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat BladesApothecarion Detachment [130pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]. Apothecary, Legion [65pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [245pts]. Cortus Dreadnought [245pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts], Searchlight and Smoke Launchers. . Dreadnought Chainfist [10pts]: Twin-linked Bolter. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter+ Troops [970pts] +Terror Squad [290pts]: 8x Executioner [120pts], Legiones Astartes, 9x Volkite Charger [45pts]. Drop Pod, Legion [35pts]: Twin-linked Bolter. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [290pts]: 8x Executioner [120pts], Legiones Astartes, 9x Volkite Charger [45pts]. Drop Pod, Legion [35pts]: Twin-linked Bolter. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [390pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]+ Fast Attack [780pts] +Night Raptor Squad [515pts]: Legiones Astartes, 14x Night Raptor [280pts], 11x Nostraman Chainglaive [110pts], 3x Power Axe [30pts]. Huntmaster [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Power Axe [10pts]Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [265pts]: 3x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles [105pts], Battle Servitor Control [15pts], Ground-tracking Auguries [10pts], Twin-linked Lascannon+ Heavy Support [430pts] +Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [430pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts]. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [330pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Cyclonic Melta Lance [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts]. . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun+ Allegiance +Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, TraitorRite of War: Terror Assault+ Lords of War [190pts] +Sub-orbital Strike Wing [190pts]. Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]. . Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]: 2x Lascannon , wing mounted, Two Kraken penetrator heavy missiles [25pts]. Equip all flyers with Battle Sevitor Controls [15pts]+ Use Playtest Rules +Use Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 (From FAQ 1.1 Feb/2019): Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 On++ Total: [3,000pts] ++ Edited August 11, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) I think I prefer the first one. With 2 two flier with kraken penetrators and a leviathan you should be good on av 14. The mortis I would exchange for khereses: You can pop rhinos and normal marines with them and reliably force jink on a fire raptor. I feel that two lascannon shots arent worth it. How are you handling the likes of terminators and legion elites in 2+ armour? I think you should be able to crack av 14 pretty well. The lascannons on your fliers will also let you crack sicarans and the like. Concerning the levi: personally I prefer either claw & drill or all shooty since you either dont get enough shots or a missing the attack in melee. Also I'd give him the volkites in his torso. Edited August 11, 2020 by Marshal Vespasian Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 Thank you Marshall! I appreciate you taking a look! I think my Raptors would be my anti-AP2 squad. Although chain-glaives are AP3, they get a lot of attacks on the charge and they have Rending. There's also a few Power Axes in the squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) One final list into the breach, if you guys don't mind! ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] +++ HQ [195pts] +Praetor, Legion [195pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers [15pts], Iron Halo [25pts], Jump Pack [20pts], Master of the Legion, Melta Bombs [5pts], Thunder Hammer [25pts], Trophies of Judgement [5pts]+ Elites [580pts] +Apothecarion Detachment [60pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [60pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Jump Pack [15pts], Narthecium, Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat BladesApothecarion Detachment [90pts]: Legiones Astartes. Apothecary, Legion [45pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, None (Infantry, Power Armour), Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades. Apothecary, Legion [45pts]: Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades, Narthecium, None (Infantry, Power Armour), Power Armour. . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat BladesContemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [250pts]. Cortus Dreadnought [250pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts], Extra Armour [5pts], Searchlight and Smoke Launchers. . Dreadnought Chainfist [10pts]: Twin-linked Bolter. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked BolterContemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [180pts]: Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon x 2 [25pts], Searchlight and Smoke Launchers+ Troops [860pts] +Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [310pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Drop Pod, Legion [35pts]: Twin-linked Bolter. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]Terror Squad [275pts]: 9x Executioner [135pts], Legiones Astartes, 10x Volkite Charger [50pts]. Headsman [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs [5pts], Nostraman Chainglaive [10pts]+ Fast Attack [745pts] +Night Raptor Squad [515pts]: Legiones Astartes, 14x Night Raptor [280pts], 11x Nostraman Chainglaive [110pts], 3x Power Axe [30pts]. Huntmaster [25pts]: Artificer Armour [10pts], Melta Bombs [5pts], Power Axe [10pts]Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [230pts]: 2x 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles [70pts], Battle Servitor Control [15pts], Ground-tracking Auguries [10pts], Twin-linked Lascannon+ Heavy Support [430pts] +Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [430pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion [100pts]. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [330pts]: Armoured Ceramite [20pts], Cyclonic Melta Lance [20pts], Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger [15pts]. . Leviathan Siege Drill [5pts]: In-built Meltagun+ Allegiance +Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, TraitorRite of War: Terror Assault+ Lords of War [190pts] +Sub-orbital Strike Wing [190pts]. Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]. . Crusade Fleet Avenger Strike Fighter [175pts]: 2x Lascannon , wing mounted, Two Kraken penetrator heavy missiles [25pts]. Equip all flyers with Battle Sevitor Controls [15pts]+ Use Playtest Rules +Use Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 (From FAQ 1.1 Feb/2019): Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 On++ Total: [3,000pts] ++ Gonna bring down the 2 Dreadnought Drop Pods turn 1 which gives the Dreads(and the pods) Shrouded from Retro Burners, which I believe gives them both a 2+ cover save the first turn of the game. 5+ for Night Lords, +1 for Stealth from Night FIghting, and +2 from Shrouded. Definitely taking into account whether I should go full melee with the Leviathan but gonna play a game with this list I think and see what happens. Edited August 11, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5582594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft0110 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 That's a lot of iterations? Is is theory listhammering, or do you have ALL those models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5583073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 That's a lot of iterations? Is is theory listhammering, or do you have ALL those models? I have all the models in 5570(?) list I posted a bit up. I'm a bit stumped about how to expand my army to deal with heavy armor, so that's really what the point of this post was/is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365786-night-lords-terror-assault-3k/#findComment-5583436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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