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after the great response in the 9th ed room I will test the next  list with pure firstborn marines and figure out how to play as competitive as possible without impulsors and devot push combination.


The main problem I see is the lack of rerolls for this kind of MSU concept. 


 


Thats the next list: 


 


Gesamtpunkte der Armee : 1998

 

 

Battalion Detachment: 

Black Templars: 

 - 1986 Punkte (PL 118)

***************  3 HQ ***************  

High Marshal Helbrecht  - - - > 155 Punkte (PL 9)

 

1 Lieutenant, 1 x Master-crafted boltgun, 1 x Jump pack  - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5)

 

Chaplain, Jump Pack

+ Bolt pistol  -> 0 Pkt.  - - - > 105 Punkte (PL 6)

 

***************  4 Standard ***************  

Crusader Squad

5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Power fist, 5 Neophytes, 5 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol

+ Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Power fist  -> 10 Pkt.  - - - > 165 Punkte (PL 8)

 

Crusader Squad

5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Power fist, 5 Neophytes, 5 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol

+ Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Power fist  -> 10 Pkt.  - - - > 165 Punkte (PL 8)

 

Crusader Squad

5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

+ Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Combi-plasma  -> 10 Pkt.  - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5)

 

Crusader Squad

5 Initiates, 3 x Boltgun + Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

+ Sword Brother, 1 x Bolt pistol, 1 x Combi-plasma  -> 10 Pkt.  - - - > 95 Punkte (PL 5)

 

***************  5 Elite ***************  

3 Cenobyte Servitors  - - - > 18 Punkte (PL 1)

 

Ironclad Dreadnought, Dreadnought chainfist, Dreadnought combat weapon + Storm bolter, Meltagun  - - - > 113 Punkte (PL 10)

 

5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Chainsword

+ Sergeant, 1 x Thunder hammer  -> 15 Pkt.  - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)

 

5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Chainsword

+ Sergeant, 1 x Thunder hammer  -> 15 Pkt.  - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)

 

5 Company Veterans, 4 x Storm shield, 4 x Storm bolter

+ Sergeant, 1 x Storm bolter  -> 3 Pkt.  - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)

 

***************  2 Unterstützung ***************  

Devastator Squad

5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon

+ Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun  -> 0 Pkt.  - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)

 

Devastator Squad

5 Space Marines, Armorium Cherub, 4 x Grav-cannon

+ Sergeant, 1 x Boltgun  -> 0 Pkt.  - - - > 120 Punkte (PL 8)

 

***************  5 Transporter ***************  

Rhino, Storm bolter  - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4)

Rhino, Storm bolter  - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4)

Rhino, Storm bolter  - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4)

Rhino, Storm bolter  - - - > 81 Punkte (PL 4)

 

Drop Pod, Storm bolter  - - - > 68 Punkte (PL 5)

 

 

(Idea is the MSU-concept. Each Crusadersquads embarked in a rhino + the melee company veterans with the shooty crusadersquads. one Devastor in the first round per drop pod the other one in strategic reserves close to Helbrecht which should be 9" Range because of the 2 litanies of the MoS, Devine Protection for the Dread + Stratagem for -1 damage and aurelian shroud.

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