Replacement for Guilliman Blue glaze?

[Corswain]

Hi everyone,

 

I am looking for a replacement for Guilliman Blue glaze. As close as possible.

 

I started a Night Lords army a few years ago and Guilliman Blue was a pretty crucial part of my metallic scheme. Now I'm finally circling back and expanding the army and I would like to get the paint scheme for the new models as close to the old ones as possible.

 

Basically the glaze was used over a Drakenhof shaded silver to achieve the metallic so I thought maybe one of the contrast paints might work.

 

Anyone got any suggestions?

Edited August 24, 2020 by Corswain

[Valkia the Bloody]

I am doing the exact same thing for my Night Lords.

I was lucky that my local store had some left-overs so I bought some spare pots, but they will run out sooner or later.

However, I was told that Vallejo transparent Blue is a near perfect replacement.

The only thing you have to do apparently is to thin it out with water because otherwise it is too strong.

You might give that one a go?

Edited August 24, 2020 by Valkia the Bloody

[Firedrake Cordova]

I am looking for a replacement for Guilliman Blue glaze. As close as possible.

Vallejo Game Colour Blue Ink, Red Ink (small amount), and a lot of water.

 

How-to make the old glazes, with complete recipes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPRV1y_c6zE

 

Confirmation video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qa6a6tqN_o

Edited August 24, 2020 by Firedrake Cordova

[Corswain]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I think it will take a little experimentation but at least I'm doing seperate units so any differences shouldn't be too painful.

[duz_]

I can't remember if it was a vox cast or painting video

My understanding is GW stopped the glazes because contrasts are just thicker versions of them

If you find the corresponding contrast blue and add enough contrast medium it should get you there

Id chase up the video first though to confirm

 

I know I will eventually have this problem too

[Gederas]

I can't remember if it was a vox cast or painting video

My understanding is GW stopped the glazes because contrasts are just thicker versions of them

If you find the corresponding contrast blue and add enough contrast medium it should get you there

Id chase up the video first though to confirm

 

I know I will eventually have this problem too

Yup. Talassar Blue + Contrast Medium (1:3 iirc) results in a near-match to Guilliman Blue.

 

Comparatively, the green is Warp Lightning, yellow is Iyanden Yellow. Bloodletter is the hard one as it's a really orange red. For that, I'd say Iyanden Yellow + Blood Angels Red, then Contrast Medium

[Bryan Blaire]

For the Contrast Medium, I've seen suggestions anywhere from 1 color:3-6 of the medium to make tints - probably just to your personal feeling on consistency - the more medium, the lower the amount of tint for the color you're going to get.

 

Gederas, for Bloodletter, I'm thinking that it'd probably be something like 2:1 of Gryph Hound Orange:Blood Angels Red then mixed with Contrast Medium.

 

Edit: Actually, looking at the colors now in hand, it might be that Gryph Hound Orange and Bloodletter are the same, I'm not sure.

[Gederas]

For the Contrast Medium, I've seen suggestions anywhere from 1 color:3-6 of the medium to make tints - probably just to your personal feeling on consistency - the more medium, the lower the amount of tint for the color you're going to get.

 

Gederas, for Bloodletter, I'm thinking that it'd probably be something like 2:1 of Gryph Hound Orange:Blood Angels Red then mixed with Contrast Medium.

 

Edit: Actually, looking at the colors now in hand, it might be that Gryph Hound Orange and Bloodletter are the same, I'm not sure.

They're not. Gryph Hound Orange is kind of.... Brownish?

 

Bloodletter is a very bright orange colour, almost like Fire Dragon Bright in tone.

[Bryan Blaire]

They're not. Gryph Hound Orange is kind of.... Brownish?

 

Bloodletter is a very bright orange colour, almost like Fire Dragon Bright in tone.

Hmmm, well, I admit to not having used it yet, so maybe mine is pretty settled, but okay, the Gryph Hound I have looks more orangey than brown.

 

Then yes, probably 2:1 Iyanden Yellow to Blood Angels Red to get a good bright orange, and then cut it with the 3-6 parts Contrast Medium.

[Arkhanist]

Another option to replace the old glazes is the ex-forgeworld-now-gw air clear paints. They're not *exact* matches, but angron red clear looks pretty similar to bloodletter by eye, and my paintrack colour-matching app has it as very close. The clears are translucent and thin already, but may need a little extra thinning for brush use as a glaze. There's also some extra colours in the clear range, like purple and orange.

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Arkhanist

[Kain Mor]

Having an almost identical scheme for my night lords (main difference is in my final step, I cap it with a mix of Drakenhoff and ardcoat for a lovely deep midnight) I can tell you that tallassar blue will give you the same results as old guilliman blue.

 

Don’t try the calth blue clear, you’ll be disappointed (I definitely was)