Brother Sergeant Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Looking for the silver lining for my ork army amongst the new array of releases announced for Primaris and Necrons it got my brain percolating. With the changes to Chapter Master and Veteran Intercessors becoming costed datasheets again people have been speculating about the possibility of a Veteran kit as any Captain can be blinged up/used as a Chapter Master. This led to me considering the two ork stratagems that modify units base stats, namely 'Ard Boyz and Skar Boyz. Now Ard Boyz can easily be made out the kit+bits box, but Skarboyz are str 5 so should be abit bulkier/buffer/reason to be str5. We did see the teased new ork model awhile back who as far as I remember had some scarring and looked fairly jacked for a Boy, and he had basic wargear so is likely not a character. Also GW love to make goffs the dominant orks, skarboyz is a goff strategem and they are a minimalistic decoration clan so fits the bifor the model. Is there any other units in other armies that give characteristic upgrades that could possibly mean new releases for the other factions? Sorry if in wrong place. I've seen discussions focusing on the marine half of this but not as much the other half, just trying to find some hope for the factions later in the cycle while we wait Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I am actually reigning in my expectations for Veteran Intercessors. Bladeguard give us some blinged-up Primaris and now it looks like Assault Intercessors get the melee weapon options for Sergeants. While it always possible that there is another kit waiting in the wings, it looks like the parts for Veteran Intercessors are already there. My hunch is GW will expects modeller to use leftovers from the Bladeguard and AI sprues to decorate a regular Intercessor squad. Also there is nothing in the leaks suggesting new models for VIs. Remember we have known the Heavy Intercessors are coming for weeks. I could be wrong of course but the main aim seems to be to reduce the number of stratagems GW needs to print and also allow players to focus their CPs on in-game effects rather than pre-game upgrades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5602734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileyjim Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 hope orks get some love, they need to go a krumpin again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I am actually reigning in my expectations for Veteran Intercessors. Bladeguard give us some blinged-up Primaris and now it looks like Assault Intercessors get the melee weapon options for Sergeants. While it always possible that there is another kit waiting in the wings, it looks like the parts for Veteran Intercessors are already there. My hunch is GW will expects modeller to use leftovers from the Bladeguard and AI sprues to decorate a regular Intercessor squad. Also there is nothing in the leaks suggesting new models for VIs. Remember we have known the Heavy Intercessors are coming for weeks. I could be wrong of course but the main aim seems to be to reduce the number of stratagems GW needs to print and also allow players to focus their CPs on in-game effects rather than pre-game upgrades. Iirc, the "flip through the pages" preview of the Space Marines codex showed a "Veteran Intercessors" datasheet listed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I think that isn't what was meant, but that the datasheet won't necessarily translate to a kit. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sergeant Tiberius Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 I think that isn't what was meant, but that the datasheet won't necessarily translate to a kit. It is what I was getting at just late night posting so probably not worded the best. It is more speculation that anything but us mone necron xenos have to find a way to keep upbeat waiting for our releases and trying to figure out what that new ork is is driving my ASD nuts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) They could very well do a veteran upgrade kit with crux terminatus and/or Indomitus Veteran honours, marksman honours, laurels and other honour markings. Of coarse they could very well go super blingy too, like Sternguard and Blade Guard veterans if they did decide to release a full kit.. Edited September 17, 2020 by Captain Smashy Pants Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sergeant Tiberius Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 They could very well do a veteran upgrade kit with crux terminatus and/or Indomitus Veteran honours, marksman honours, laurels and other honour markings. Of coarse they could very well go super blingy too, like Sternguard and Blade Guard veterans if they did decide to release a full kit.. With most Primaris units being similar in purpose to Firstborn just more focused, bladeguard vets fill the vanguard vets minus jump packs for melee vets, then vet Intercessors could be the sternguard analogue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5603338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I think that isn't what was meant, but that the datasheet won't necessarily translate to a kit. This is New GW. They won't make a datasheet for any unit they don't have a kit for, or an obvious way of building it with their kits/upgrades (see: Sammael on Sableclaw and Talonmaster, which are explicitly in the instructions that come with the Ravenwing Bike Squadron kit) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5604044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) If they have the same loadout as an intercessor, then the intercessor box is the kit. See other datasheets like Death Company intercessors which are similar in concept. Edited September 18, 2020 by WrathOfTheLion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366521-stratagem-to-datasheet-possible-kits-inbound/#findComment-5604051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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