Whitelion Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I've always wondered, in the quotes I've read in the novels, it is mentioned that they are built specifically to do it. Others argue that they do so because they travel at low speeds, and vacuum shields cannot stop objects traveling at low speeds. This seems strange to me, as in BFG the torpedoes move to: Normal Torpedo: Speed 10 VUs, 100'000km for 30m (55.6 km / s) Fast-Burn Torpedo: Speed 15 VUs, 150'000km for 30m (83.3 kps) they are not exactly slow, I can understand that a tank or a space marine, moving at a few km / h can penetrate an empty shield of a titan, but the torpedoes travel at thousands of km per second Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Basic physics would dictate that an energy shield has a charge to it, and the torpedoes have a system that could alter said charge towards the energy shield. So in accordance to what charge the shield was, the torpedo would change it's charge accordingly and pass through it with no problem, as if the shield wasn't there. So it's not a speed thing, it's a polarity thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
armarnis Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 In the second siege of terra book we see aircraft passing through void shields of the imperial palace which is protected by dark age of technology voids so i can easily see torpedos pass a starship void Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 In the second siege of terra book we see aircraft passing through void shields of the imperial palace which is protected by dark age of technology voids so i can easily see torpedos pass a starship void Yeah this, also I think it depends who is writing, sometimes they can't get through other times they can as the plot seems to dictate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Basic physics would dictate that an energy shield has a charge to it, and the torpedoes have a system that could alter said charge towards the energy shield. So in accordance to what charge the shield was, the torpedo would change it's charge accordingly and pass through it with no problem, as if the shield wasn't there. So it's not a speed thing, it's a polarity thing. The problem is that if this were the case, then any macrocannon shells could be given similar abilities to pass straight through, but from what we've been shown this isn't the case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Space magic bigtrouble, Lord_Caerolion and Doghouse 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywire Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The slow blade penetrates the shield. Grand Master Laertes, BluejayJunior, Doctor Perils and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Consider the fact that while torpedoes and voidcraft may move at 30cm over the course of a round, lances and macro-cannons can pass over longer distances 'instantly' in game terms. Speed is a relative thing. Space vessel void shields may even be calibrated differently to Titan ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 In BFG torpedoes are still WAY slower than any of the other weapon systems, with them taking multiple turns to reach out to the target, the speeds are pretty much equivalent to those of fighters and bombers so this matches up with the concept of slow stuff passing through shields. Rik Spleenex 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrinNfool Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I'd imagine it like water, hit it at a slow speed and you slip right in, hit it at a high speed and its like hitting concrete. Speed is relative, obviously so while we look at a torp and say wow thats fast, its not as fast as say a macro cannon. Surface area and mass too would play a role too would guess. I mean... in the end we are talking about a non existent technology in a non existent universe so... space magic works too. Redrandy93 and roryokane 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Void shields are warp tech folks, i think talk of polarities and hell, even physics is going to be off piste :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Fairly sure it's a speed thing. I'm sure the pilots that go through have to go at a very specific speed. And I swear they dont all pull it off either Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Game balance for BFG. With their limited firing arc and time to reach the target would anybody use them if they bounced off shields? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 In Titandeath, there is a fairly detailed description of void shields functioning during a battle in space. Both energy and physical weapons are intercepted by the shields and so are vessels like boarding craft. During once sequence, fire is concentrated on one particular part of the ship to knock down void shields and allow boarding craft to get through and clamp onto the hull. The Tech Priests managed to repair shields before all the assault craft get through and the stragglers get splattered across the recharged void shields. I suspect that different authors write things differently though as this is one of the areas where the fluff seems to be inconsistent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 As some have already mentioned it’s also down to the author. I’ve read 40k books which specifically describe the objective for ship gunnery officers to time the weapons fire so that everything arrives at the same time. So the torpedoes are launched first because they’re slower, then medium speed weapons then just before those two strike the lances are fired as they travel fastest. The idea being to collapse the shields so the torpedoes can get through. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5602725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 As some have already mentioned it’s also down to the author. I’ve read 40k books which specifically describe the objective for ship gunnery officers to time the weapons fire so that everything arrives at the same time. So the torpedoes are launched first because they’re slower, then medium speed weapons then just before those two strike the lances are fired as they travel fastest. The idea being to collapse the shields so the torpedoes can get through. Just to add, boarding craft are also have been known to fire first, followed by torps, then all the other stuff to enable boarding actions. MARK0SIAN 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5603049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelion Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 but in no novel is there any talk of technology that enables torpedoes to cross void shields? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5603065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Nothing has been specifically mentioned, no. Whitelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5603100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 The first Dawn of Fire book makes it to be a speed thing. In it torpedos actually fire reto rockets to slow down enough to pass through a ships void shields. I seem to recall something similar in one of the SoT books as well. Whitelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366523-why-do-40k-torpedoes-pass-through-shields/#findComment-5603254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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