Core Units - Huge Change

[NightHowler]

No pictures of the blizzard shield?

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

No pictures of the blizzard shield?

They don't show the defensive upgrades probably haven't came up with symbols for them. It may also have to do with the complexity of some of the upgrades.

[Ragnar69]

Hm, i think I would prefer a 2 shot multimelta over helfrost if the special rule doesn't get better

[Dark Shepherd]

Hm, i think I would prefer a 2 shot multimelta over helfrost if the special rule doesn't get better

Yeah youd want a big points difference otherwise

[Gherrick]

I would rather see a twin helfrost cannon option for dreads... :)

[SilverShire]

Focused beam helfrost destructor with the Stormfang strat will be +1 to hit and would and d3+4 damage! Could be devastating turn 1 armed with twin multi melta and storm strike missiles 

Edited September 22, 2020 by SilverShire

[Dark Shepherd]

Focused beam helfrost destructor with the Stormfang strat will be +1 to hit and would and d3+4 damage! Could be devastating turn 1 armed with twin multi melta and storm strike missiles

Lets hope we keep that strat! Stormfangs get some free missiles as is

 

Even better would be the strat expanded to Stormwolfs

[Fang_Guard23]

If this is what they do with helfrost than the tempest hammer of the Iron Priest will work wonders

[Gherrick]

If this is what they do with helfrost than the tempest hammer of the Iron Priest will work wonders

I'm curious if/how the helfrost pistol will be affected as well.

[Dark Shepherd]

Helfrost pistol got toned down Index to Codex

Tempest Hammer was repeatedly forgotten about when TH got previous nerfs

[DanPesci]

Do we think bjorn may have lost the twin-las option entirely due to it not being in the kit?

 

Also a bit weird that trueclaw is D6 whereas the fenrisian great axe is d3+3, hopefully its retained reroll wounds.

 

Also the standard DCCW/Claw is only AP-2 ?!?!? So less than a powerfist?? (or have pfist come down too?)

[WrathOfTheLion]

Not sure, I ended up building Bjorn with the hellfrost cannon because it looked cool, but it looks like it might end up being something that is usable.

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Do we think bjorn may have lost the twin-las option entirely due to it not being in the kit?

 

Also a bit weird that trueclaw is D6 whereas the fenrisian great axe is d3+3, hopefully its retained reroll wounds.

 

Also the standard DCCW/Claw is only AP-2 ?!?!? So less than a powerfist?? (or have pfist come down too?)

If so that's dumb because my original metal Bjorn has a twin las. My suspicion though is that the kit sheets come with the rules for whats in the kit, but the actual datasheet may have some of the classic choices not in the box necessarily.

[Dark Shepherd]

I reckon its just not there as its not in that box

We had to get it from vanilla dread or ven dread kit, same as with the plasma cannon (and our other dreads with missile launchers)

[Fang_Guard23]

Do we think bjorn may have lost the twin-las option entirely due to it not being in the kit?

 

Also a bit weird that trueclaw is D6 whereas the fenrisian great axe is d3+3, hopefully its retained reroll wounds.

 

Also the standard DCCW/Claw is only AP-2 ?!?!? So less than a powerfist?? (or have pfist come down too?)

So the dreadnought powerfist is Sx2 Ap-3 with Damage 3

 

While the Great Wolf Claw is S+4 Ap -2 with Damage 3 with reroll to wound, but the claw isn't standard

 

 

Also what they should do is make Helfrost an Ability so that they can expand on what the weapon can do

[Guest Triszin]

they only show whats in the box.

 

las for bjorn/ven is not in the box, nor is the MP

[ranulf the revenant]

Are Venerable dreads core as well? Can't seem to find it reasonably fast and I don't have a codex yet.

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

Ven dreads are core