space wolf Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 So I'm getting back into the game. And while I've never claimed to like ultramarines (too "superman-y", for my tastes). I do really like studying the roman imperial period of world history. Thus we have a match made in terra. My goals in the project or fourfold:+ Build an Ultramarine army that completely pushes the roman elements to the limit, both aesthetically and tonally.+ Really push the more dramatic elements of space marine design. I'm talking filagrees, parchment, eagle helmets, etc, while still maintaining, point number 1+ Keep these guys fully grimdark. While they may be heroes, they are NOT human. They are superhuman weapons and looking at these guys in their bright blue armor should be terrifying.+ Increase my abilities in both sculpting and molding. I'm fairly deft at green stuff sculpting, but I'm out of practice and could be better.Some photos up soon. Dr_Ruminahui, Llagos_Tyrant, Naryn and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 So to start here are some pictures that I've used for inspiration for tone and style And now for my WIP This is the first Primaris Intercessor Sergeant. All C&C welcome...I'd love to hear any ideas you guys may have to improve what I've got going so far. Thanks for looking N1SB, Pearson73, DaBoiKyknos and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5613430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshow668 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Excellent work so far, looking forward to seeing this project develop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5613458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Off to a solid start, I'm looking forward to seeing how this project develops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5613565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Thanks guys! Finishing a squad of these guys will take me FOREVER...but thats ok, that's easier on my wallet. Anyway here he is with more greenstuff work. Thanks for stopping by! ++EDIT++ just realized the purity seal on his elbow...kinda got messed up....that's been touched up! strongbow, Redrandy93, Smoke Frog and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5613979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_GingerBat_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Looking good that. Loving the Chapter Badge on the kneecap as well, really good idea that I might have to borrow at some point in the future! Was trying to work out why he looked so thin until I realised he's not wearing his backpack. Are you planning on adding some ornamentation to that too or leaving it as is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5614162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 Looking good that. Loving the Chapter Badge on the kneecap as well, really good idea that I might have to borrow at some point in the future! Was trying to work out why he looked so thin until I realised he's not wearing his backpack. Are you planning on adding some ornamentation to that too or leaving it as is? Feel free to steal it! As for the backpack. Yes there will be ornimentation on the backpack and shoulder pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5614224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Very nice test model. If you're going for leaning into the Roman/Greek theme, have you checked out PopGoesTheMonkey? He has both an Ultramarines section and a Greek & Roman section on his site for bits. The Corinthian Style helmets for the Primaris would look awesome on these guys Edited October 8, 2020 by Gederas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5614304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Very nice test model. If you're going for leaning into the Roman/Greek theme, have you checked out PopGoesTheMonkey? He has both an Ultramarines section and a Greek & Roman section on his site for bits. The Corinthian Style helmets for the Primaris would look awesome on these guys That's where I got some of my bits from So for the most part, I think I'm done converting...I'll post up some fluff about him, when I get a paint job on him. Anyway, C&C always welcome. BLACK BLŒ FLY, Rockybaerboa, mel_danes and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5615002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 +++INCOMMING TRANSMISSION+++ ++By Order of Brother Capt[interference]ato Sicarius++ +Warp Storm too sev[interference]+ +Bat[interference] fleet must disperse+ +Retrogr[interference]de back t[interference] Ultramar+ +Strength an[interference]onor+ +Emp[interference] be with us all+ +++END OF TRANSMISSION+++ Led By Cato Sicarious, the 2nd Company of the XIIIth Legion: The Ultramarines, encountered a massive warp storm while trying to transport the latest Primaris Brothers, from the Terran system, to Ultramar. Sicarius was forced to break up the fleet and ordered that each ship make its own way to Ultramar. This is the chronicle of what happened to those brothers on one such ship. The Battle Cruiser, Aquila Umbra (The Eagle’s Shadow) Brother Centurion Marius Marius is the heart of Intercessor Squad Mollitia, he leads his fellow battle brothers with a combination of optimism and battle-hardened experience. Bombastic and gregarious, Marius has a reputation as being a bit too cavalier. Despite his reputation, like all centurions, Marius emphasizes discipline and effective battle tactics in all of the Astartes he leads. “So they’ve decided to put up an actual fight?! HAHAHA, FORWARD BROTHERS! SHOW THEM WHAT IT MEANS TO BATTLE THE SONS OF ULTRAMAR!” I think I've met my three stylistic objectives, I listed in the first post, but what do you guys think? C&C welcome, thanks for stopping by! Angry Banana, Lord Blackwood, BLACK BLŒ FLY and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5616369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Marius' model is beautifully done. I think I see an Orky skull on one of the medallions; were they given to honor his victories over myriad enemies of Man? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5616495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks! Yeah, those are campaign medals. The romans issued them after every campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5616556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Here are two more WIPs. after these, two more for a combat squad! C&C and ideas are always welcome. Thanks for stopping by! DaBoiKyknos and Lord Blackwood 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5617617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Really smashing work, the greenstuff details are excellent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5617629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_GingerBat_ Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 My goals in the project or fourfold: + Build an Ultramarine army that completely pushes the roman elements to the limit, both aesthetically and tonally. + Really push the more dramatic elements of space marine design. I'm talking filagrees, parchment, eagle helmets, etc, while still maintaining, point number 1 + Keep these guys fully grimdark. While they may be heroes, they are NOT human. They are superhuman weapons and looking at these guys in their bright blue armor should be terrifying. + Increase my abilities in both sculpting and molding. I'm fairly deft at green stuff sculpting, but I'm out of practice and could be better. I'd say you're well on your way to hitting each one of these goals! Really enjoying where you're going with these guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5618074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Pearson & Gingerbat: Thanks guys...I've been trying very hard to take a character approach to every model...every guy is a character in his own story, so each one has to be unique and different. We shall see if we can keep that up beyond the first few models...I hope so. In other news, converting is done for these two. Marine 1 Marine 2 As always C&C welcome, and thanks for stopping by. Lord Blackwood, DaBoiKyknos and Redrandy93 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5618114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Again, you demonstrate enviable sculpting skills. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5618139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 You've nailed it, each of them really does look like a storied veteran. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5618173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Thanks guys. Honestly its mostly the work of size 0 color shapers. These things are workhorses. With these, working with GS is so easy, its basically blocking in shapes. It may take a bit of practice to get good at it, but not nearly as much as you think! Pearson73 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5618216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 The Silvius Twins Brother Gaius Taciturn and dour are words that describe Gaius. Known as the “angry one” of the Silvius Twins, no one takes destroying the enemies of the imperium more seriously, in Squad Mollitia, than Gaius. During any given campaign, he scratches marks in his armor for each enemy he destroys. But, a servant of the Emperor’s work is never done, so once the campaign is over, he repaints his armor, just to start the count all over again. “You are just another temporary mark on my warplate!” Brother Marcus Thoughtful and compassionate, Brother Marcus is the confidant of Squad Mollitia. Considered the “smart one,” of the Silvius Twins, Marcus is as much a philosopher as warrior. Deeply invested in the wisdom of the Codex Astartes, Marcus has a budding strategic mind and has been marked for possible Chaplain initiation. “We just need to lay down a base of fire, while Gaius flanks them…with extreme predjudice.” Well that's all for today. As always, C&C welcome and thanks for stopping by! Lord Blackwood, Elzender, OakRiver and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Love the kills markings on the models. The Ultramarines have never looked grittier. Geat work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Excellent works. Where'd you get Gaius' Angry Marines-style helmet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Stratokhan: Thank you! I'm very happy to hear that you think they are gritty....that was REALLY what I wanted to portray. #validation :D Bjorn: I sculpted over the primaris Mark IV helmet grill. Its not as hard as it looks, and if you look close, its honestly not that neat. But with the right kind of paint job, a lot of sloppiness can be hidden. Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Ok, converting is done for the last 2 of the combat squad. I've been told its a better idea to take units of 5 intercessors instead of units of 10, is that correct? I personally like the idea just because it works with the fluff...they are on a years long journey in the warp, cut off from supplies, and unable to backfill casualties. (think something like Homer's The Odyssey for 40k) So a little bit about this last guy. As someone who carries a gun for work (military police), I HATE HATE HATE (im using the word HATE, here) the reloading positions modeled on marines. This may be TMI, in my 10 years, everyone I have ever spoken with, been instructed by, and just experience, tells me, you never ever release your grip off of the pistol grip to reload. So I spent a little extra time, to model this guy reloading in a much more "tactically correct" (if that can be said) way. The helmet is inspired by Apologist's Old Praetors of Calth Blog. C&C always welcome, and thanks for stopping by! Lord Blackwood and OakRiver 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Continuing to bring out some smashing marines. The poses are solid, I really like how the chap with the grenade launcher is leaning back to fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366841-si-vis-pacis-para-bellum-something-big-sorta-clickbait-d/#findComment-5619803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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